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Joe Rogan podcast, check it out! The
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Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day,
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Joe Rogan podcast
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by night, all day! Social
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fun. How are
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you man? How's
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it going? Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. I
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really enjoy your show. It's very different. Like when I first started
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watching it, I was like, oh this guy's fucking interviewing all kinds
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of crazy people. Like, I like you like a Navy Seal Art
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Bell. It's
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kind of like a, Navy Seal Art
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Bell. It's kind of cool
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man, you know, like you go
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out there with people, like that one dude
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that was saying there's direct energy weapons in
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Antarctica, you letting that guy go out, he's
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going out on a long ass pier. Oh
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yeah, Eric Hacker. All
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those stories are so crazy. I was just finishing,
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is it John Alexander? Is that
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the gentleman? That worked
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with UAPs and unidentified phenomenon and mysteries.
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He's done it all. He's done it
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all. Fascinating. He's done it all. Fascinating.
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All the way back to Vietnam, right? Yeah,
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yeah. That guy, what a crazy story man.
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You imagine being involved in that kind of
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shit? I
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don't know. How much do you believe it though? Like,
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when I hear the UFO stuff, there's a part of
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my brain that's like, don't
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get suckered into this. This
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shit's nonsense. There's something that, it
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just feels like, like if they
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told me a super volcano was going
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to erupt, I believe it. Super volcanoes
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are definitely real, and there's a historical
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precedent, they've ruined civilizations. They tell
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me that there's UFOs, and part of me is just
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like, I don't fucking
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believe you. Yeah. You
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know what I mean? Yeah, I know. I
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mean, you know
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what bothers me about the whole camp? It's nobody,
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none of these camps like talk to each other.
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Right. It's my camp
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knows everything. Isn't that always the case though? That's
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the case in the military often, right? I was
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going to compare it to Special Officer. That
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guy doesn't know shit. I know that's... That's
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kind of how when I was really young I was
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like 24. I was dating this girl that was She
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did something in government, and she was explaining to
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me, so this is pre
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internet ish you know like people didn't have the
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internet then it's like early
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90s right and she said that she
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she one of her jobs was to
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Make sure that information that the
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the Navy had received would be
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available to the Army So
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like you have to make sure people aren't running
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redundant tests like we already did this we'll get
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you this information so there was like
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some sort of a database in like
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these computer terminals where she could share information
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and She
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had some sort of top clearance and
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One day like just fucking
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around she
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wrote little green men in
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in the search function and Her
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computer got shut down and then people visited
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her and they asked her like what are
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you doing? Like why did you
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why'd you look this up like what is
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this all about and I think she wound
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up either getting fired Or transferred to some
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other position or lost whatever clearance that she
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had Interesting but not
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heard that one when I was
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young I was like whoa aliens were real But
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as an older man now looking back on I
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go well Maybe what she was doing was inappropriate
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for her job Like maybe what
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she was doing was demonstrating that she couldn't
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be trusted because she's doing something That's not there
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was no request to look up little green men
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Yeah, it was like she did it on
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her own like this a hundred percent factual
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hard to tell you know I sell it's a
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girl. I dated. I don't I don't really
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know. Oh you dated. Yeah dated
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her yeah This is yeah,
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like like I said early 90s.
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I was living in New York I had actually dated
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her in Boston that we met up again in New
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York a couple years later So
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she was telling me about her job, and then she was
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telling me like check this out I
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shouldn't be telling you this but part you could back then I
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was all in on UFOs. I was like wow I thought it
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was real. But as
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an older man, I look back and go,
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well, if you have some kid, you know,
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she was basically my age, she's
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probably 24 as well, and
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you're having this kid work
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in these terminals that has access to
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top secret information and they have clearance,
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I would say, hey, maybe you shouldn't be just
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looking up shit randomly. Yeah. You know, like we
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can't have this kid, we can't trust this kid.
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Whatever security clearance level, I mean
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there's whatever. I didn't
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get that high up, but I've not
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seen like a database where you can
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just look anything up like, oh shit,
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who killed, who killed up JFK? Let's
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look that up real quick. You know,
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it's, it's, it's. Well,
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you know what Trump said about that one, right?
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What did he say? Trump said that if they
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showed you what they showed me, you wouldn't want
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to release it Oh yeah, yeah, I did hear
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that. Crazy. What a crazy thing to
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say. Yeah. That can only mean
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one thing in my eyes. Yeah, we did it.
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Yeah. The only, the only thing that makes any
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sense is the United States did it. I
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mean, more and more just keeps unraveling. You
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know, Tucker just comes out and says it
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openly. He just says it openly. Yeah. CIA
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killed Kennedy. He
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has a crazy laugh. I
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don't, you know, I don't know who could actually say it other
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than the people that have read those papers and you
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know, who knows
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what they would, you know, the, the, the
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president is basically a part time employee, not
9:06
a part time employee, but a part, a
9:08
short term employee. You know, if you've got
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a long running business and for some
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technicality every now and then you have to bring
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in some fucking CEO and he does a four
9:17
year term and then hopefully he could finagle it.
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So he gets another four year term if he's
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playing by the rules and you
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just bring them in and you're going to put
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it. Yeah. Why would you tell that guy who
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killed Kennedy? Yeah. Yeah. They
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hid shit from him all the time, which
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is totally illegal. What do you, what do
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you think about RF case, you know,
9:38
possibly getting in to investigate all that?
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I think it would be one of
9:43
the best things for the health of
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the people in the United States. If
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you really care about health, I
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think there's a lot of us and it was
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me at one point in time and I've gotten
9:54
more educated about it. A lot of us are
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very ignorant about what we're doing to our bodies
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with food and medications and I don't
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think we're being told the truth
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and I think there's a reason
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why other countries, multiple
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other countries have banned food
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elements, food ingredients that
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we use all the time, these
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red dyes, all these different things. And
10:16
this was all, there was just a
10:18
recent thing that they did. Who
10:20
was involved in that? Brigham testified in that? They
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had all these health experts testify and they were
10:27
all hammering this point over and over again. They
10:29
were talking about the food additives, they
10:32
were talking about glyphosate and how fucking
10:34
dangerous glyphosate is and like an enormous
10:36
percentage of people show traces of glyphosate
10:38
in their blood. We're getting it through
10:40
all kinds of vegetables. It's ubiquitously sprayed
10:43
on monocrop agriculture crops. We're all just
10:45
consuming these poisons. There's no reason to
10:47
have fluoride in the water. There's fucking
10:49
no reason. We've been putting fluoride in
10:52
the water. Keep your teeth closed. You
10:54
don't want cavities. It doesn't
10:56
make any sense. And we've been doing it
10:58
forever. And there's no reason to
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do it. And there's like real data that shows that
11:02
high levels of fluoride in water lowers IQ. The
11:05
higher the fluoride is in water in
11:07
certain areas, they can see a measurable
11:09
dip in people's IQs. Wow. I
11:12
didn't know that. Have you messed around with
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the, have you heard of the YUCA app?
11:17
No. Dude, you got to get
11:19
the YUCA app. What is it? So
11:21
you basically scan anything like
11:24
food related. It's Y-U-K-A. I think
11:26
it's Y-U-C-A. There it is. Oh,
11:29
nice. Y-U-K-A. So
11:31
shout out to Yuka. There
11:33
it is. See,
11:36
like Honey Nut, it's so, it'll tell you
11:38
the additives in there. Contains
11:41
additives to avoid sugar too.
11:44
It'll tell you all the chemicals and
11:47
what the chemicals do to you. Ah,
11:49
that's genius. Yeah, it's pretty good. What a great
11:52
ad. No ads. We just did an
11:54
ad for them. Good for them. Good
11:56
for them though, but that's what people need. I
11:59
think if I... RFK gets into office,
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he will expose a lot of this stuff, just
12:03
like he did when he was an environmental attorney.
12:05
People think of him as just the vaccine kook. Listen,
12:08
you gotta look at that guy's, the
12:10
history of that guy's work has
12:13
all been about protecting people from
12:15
corporations that are poisoning them. That's
12:18
literally what that guy did, his whole career. And
12:20
if he can do that with health, particularly
12:22
with things that we can avoid, look, one of
12:24
the things they demonstrated is that Lucky Charms has
12:27
sold in the United States, they don't sell the
12:29
same one in Canada. In Canada,
12:31
the dyes that we use to make it all
12:33
pretty and exciting for kids, they don't allow that
12:35
because it's fucking toxic. So we
12:37
allow it, which means someone's corrupt. Someone's
12:40
corrupt. Probably the whole system, maybe. Probably
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the whole system is heavily
12:45
influenced, at the very least,
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forget about bribery. Let's not
12:50
even say bribery. Heavily
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influenced by
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relationships that
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these people have with CEOs
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in these corporations and the boards
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of executives, and this weird little
13:04
revolving door between the FDA and
13:06
the CDC and all these different
13:09
organizations, and then they get, they
13:11
leave, and then they get this
13:13
amazing job working for some huge
13:16
corporation that they were helping regulate
13:18
just a few years ago. It's
13:21
the most transparent thing. It should be,
13:23
if insider trading is illegal, how's that
13:25
legal? Good point. I mean, does FDA
13:27
approval even mean anything to you? Not
13:30
to me. It doesn't to me, but it
13:32
took a long time before I got to
13:35
that. It took a long time before I
13:37
really understood, like, why do we think that
13:39
saturated fat is bad? Oh, it was a
13:41
lie by the sugar companies. Okay, why do
13:43
people tell you that vitamin supplementation doesn't really
13:45
help and you just need a balanced diet?
13:47
Oh, because doctors don't know jack shit about
13:49
nutrition, and that you're going to a guy
13:52
who literally knows less than you because he
13:54
went to medical school for how to fix
13:56
knees or whatever the fuck he specialized in,
13:58
and you're taking this guy's advice. And
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he doesn't know anything about nutrition. He's not
14:02
read any peer-reviewed data that guy is just
14:04
trying to keep up He's
14:07
got fucking bills piling in and he's
14:09
bringing people and shuffling them through the
14:11
office and he's worried about his You
14:14
have insurance in case you you fuck up
14:16
Malpractice insurance and you have to pay your
14:18
medical school bills and those guys are barely
14:20
getting but they're floating They're trying to just
14:22
run people through their office as fast as
14:25
they can. Does it does it bother you
14:27
if? There's some
14:29
type of I don't know some type of a new Does
14:33
it bother you if it's not FDA approved at all
14:35
if it's new like nobody's looked into
14:37
it Well, I wouldn't dig
14:39
anything. No one's looked especially a drug. Yeah,
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it's just like give it some time kids
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Give it some time I mean how many
14:47
times do they have to pull drugs before
14:49
people like what is the percentage of drugs
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that the FDA approves and Then pulls I
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believe it's 25% is I have no idea I
14:57
think it's 25% see if that's true The
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so this is the ones that they approve and then
15:02
eventually they find out this stuff is terrible for you
15:04
And then they pull it. Yeah, I think it's 25%
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Which you know, what does it say? one-third
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off According to 2017 study
15:15
which is probably worse now about one-third of
15:17
drugs approved by the FDA within a 10-year
15:19
period receive alerts warnings Or recalls in the
15:21
years following their approval That's
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fucking bananas. Give it some time
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kids. Yeah Also,
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have you seen the
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Stephen Crowder undercover thing he did with
15:34
that covid czar in New York now
15:36
We've seen that Jamie go to his
15:39
page and find the most recent one
15:41
because the most recent one is Fascinating
15:43
because the most recent one this guy
15:45
is openly talking about how monkey pox
15:48
is not really a threat But they're
15:50
trying to present it as a threat
15:52
so they could sell this medication They're
15:55
talking about pushing this man. This guy's
15:57
openly talking about monkey pox
15:59
is really just gay guys get it from unprotected what
16:02
let's let it yeah is
16:04
it on
16:07
his Instagram go to it I'll show you which one it is
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yeah that's it is
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it no no
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no no no that's not it that's not it
16:19
that's because that's the one where he's talking about
16:21
how he shut the the city down there's
16:24
a recent one no I know maybe
16:28
it's somewhere else let me scroll down a little
16:30
bit see if you can
16:32
find the one see that one right there that's that
16:34
kind of that's kind of yellow it's yellow there but
16:37
which one there's got to be one where he's talking
16:39
about monkeypox because
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that was the one I was watching today that's
16:47
that's not because that's all about shutting
16:50
the schools down god
16:52
damn it we got to find it okay just
16:55
find it and get to us because I I
16:57
know we I might have watched it on X I probably
17:00
thought I'm saying X now yeah good
17:02
for you politically right like when I
17:04
call a transgender person a girl she
17:07
like Lee like that how I did that said she
17:11
talking to him directly no
17:15
no that's on it that's that's Crowder confronting him
17:17
when he's that guy's fired now the guy's fuck
17:20
but the monkeypox one god damn it I know I
17:22
saved it if you want I can find it I
17:24
saved it on my phone because I was like this
17:26
is just so bonkers that these
17:28
people are having conversations in public and
17:30
openly admitting that they're trying to push
17:32
people into taking drugs it don't even
17:34
work really interesting this is gonna be
17:44
a problem I'm not gonna find it if you see if
17:46
just see if you could find it it's got to be
17:48
out there because I watched it this morning did
17:52
you go monkeypox nothing it's
17:55
gonna be in one of these links I just have to oh
17:57
wait out hold up back
17:59
up Back up that was right there right
18:02
above that dr. J Varna, okay This
18:05
is it So
18:09
is it because The
18:11
New York Post doesn't show it that's okay We could just read
18:14
what it says because it's kind of interesting We
18:16
don't have to hear him say it but Stephen Crowder's
18:19
kind of decided to do this James O'Keefe type
18:21
deal and I don't
18:23
know how they do that. It's pretty wizardry. Yeah,
18:25
you know generally I think you get like a
18:27
gay guy who likes to talk It's
18:31
a man some dude who can sit down with this
18:33
guy and get him a little tipsy that seems to
18:35
be having gay guys like to spill the beans He
18:40
previously served senior health advisor to then mayor bill
18:42
de Blasio tasked with
18:44
running Big Apple's pandemic response Okay,
18:47
so he was talking about the approval
18:49
process while discuss it discussing SIG
18:51
a technologies techno
18:54
viral Viromant or T
18:57
pox drug. So this is the drug for
18:59
monkey pox See
19:02
it so that's why spinning it in the
19:04
media is helpful We want the FDA to
19:06
prove our drug specifically for monkey pox and
19:08
right now It's only considered experimental and they
19:11
won't approve it He said in the US
19:13
T pox is not approved by the FDA
19:15
for treatment of m pox But could be
19:17
used to treat patients as part of a
19:20
clinical trial known as the study of techno
19:22
Viromat for human m pox virus
19:25
according to signal technologies the company's
19:27
website added that the stomp trial
19:29
is being conducted to Evaluate the
19:31
efficacy of T pox for the
19:34
treatment of m pox Varna
19:36
then griped at the video film on August
19:38
14th that his then employer is stuck with
19:40
our drug But the people
19:42
aren't going to be as confident in it because
19:45
the data doesn't look as strong as it should
19:48
and so then later He starts talking about
19:50
the stock prices So
19:52
he says sometimes you do a study and this
19:54
fucking nothing works at all or people get really
19:56
sick from it He said in the covert recording
19:58
the problem is if you do another study
20:00
it'll take a year or two to do it because
20:02
you have to get the ethics approval, you got to
20:04
get the money, you got to get the patients to
20:06
come in. In the videos, Varma
20:08
then gloated about how he knows
20:10
the reporters well and referenced a
20:12
September interview with New York Times
20:14
on MPOCs, which touted the T-POCs
20:16
as a drug used to treat
20:18
MPOCs infection. He also described the
20:21
World Health Organization's emergency authorization process
20:23
before explaining how he wants the
20:25
media to report on T-POCs. So
20:27
he was talking, one of the things
20:29
in the video, he was talking about stock prices. So
20:32
they're talking about making it look like these drugs
20:35
do better than they do, getting people to prescribe
20:38
them. Okay,
20:41
hold on, start. Okay, so
20:44
basically we're trying to get the media to say
20:46
is, oh, the drug didn't work because it was
20:48
designed the wrong way, so they're going to do
20:50
another study and it'll probably work. And in the
20:52
meantime, people just prescribe it as an emergency drug.
20:55
That's what we want the story to be. Which is
20:57
wild to say out loud. And
20:59
he said the risk of MPOCs spreading in the
21:01
US is very low and it's almost certainly going
21:03
to stay among gay men. Yeah,
21:06
so it's all just, it's
21:09
supposedly only,
21:12
I don't think in America, I
21:14
think four people have died from it. Which
21:17
is, you got to go hard. That's
21:19
it, huh? You got to go hard and
21:21
die from that. You quit right before they talked about the 10
21:23
person sex parties. Oh yeah, that
21:25
was another thing. That was when he
21:27
got busted for having parties during the
21:29
COVID lockdowns while he was encouraging the
21:31
lockdowns. Wow. You didn't hear
21:33
that part? No. Oh, so
21:36
he got, Crowder got him on camera
21:38
saying that he was doing Molly and
21:41
partying and saying, I
21:43
hope somebody doesn't see me doing
21:45
this because I could get
21:47
in real trouble because obviously I reinforced
21:51
the lockdowns. Wow. I
21:53
mean, surprising but not, you know.
21:56
Everybody's eyes have been opened up over the last few years.
21:58
At least people that are trying. to pay
22:00
attention to how nutty the people are
22:03
who actually run the show. Yeah, yeah
22:05
it's a lot
22:07
of people are, I mean it's crazy. It's
22:09
like everything you knew is just flipped upside
22:11
down. It's like a bunch
22:14
of actors are running it. That's what it's
22:16
like because that's what they're really like. What
22:18
politicians are like are like actors are not
22:20
quite good looking enough to get into movies
22:22
and television shows. They can't host entertainment tonight
22:25
but they can read off a teleprompter you know
22:27
and they can do a good, like look
22:29
Kamala Harris had one good read off
22:31
a teleprompter and she shot up in
22:34
the polls. That's
22:36
the power of just a performance
22:38
when you want to believe something.
22:40
You want to believe. I
22:42
mean I just I don't believe anything anymore you
22:44
know. Well I can't. I was
22:46
watching this these guys were breaking down you
22:48
know they can track cell phones they could
22:50
figure out like who cell phone was there
22:52
they can get metadata and they were talking
22:54
about these Kamala Harris rallies about how organized
22:57
there are these people are coming in on
22:59
buses and many of them have been to
23:01
multiple rallies and that when this
23:03
one this one local one like 80% of the
23:05
people came from somewhere else and
23:08
they were all bust in. How do they know
23:10
that? How do they know that? Well I'll send
23:12
this to Jamie because this one I actually have
23:14
but I think they know
23:16
it because of the day you could track
23:18
data on a phone now. Oh they're doing
23:20
the geo fencing stuff? I don't
23:23
know exactly how they do it but
23:25
they're doing something in which they can
23:27
tell when when your phone has been
23:29
in an area. Okay I found this
23:31
guy's I found I found
23:33
his the other video. Yeah
23:36
here I'll show it to you Jamie because it's
23:39
even gross you're hearing it come out of this
23:41
guy's mouth. There's an hour and a half video
23:43
on his YouTube channel that I think it's taken
23:45
from. Yeah but this is the clip I'm sending
23:47
the clip from Instagram for whatever reason. I don't
23:49
know if Instagram is hiding it I don't know
23:51
what's happening but they
23:54
wouldn't do that. No it's on his louder
23:56
with Crowder page that's why. Oh is that
23:58
what it is? Yeah okay. God,
24:01
I hate looking up things on my phone in the middle of
24:03
a fucking show, but sometimes you have to. So
24:06
these guys, what they were essentially
24:10
showing is that,
24:12
oh here it is, that it's
24:15
very organized and people are being busted. Is
24:19
that okay? Is that ethical? I mean maybe
24:22
just making it more convenient for them to
24:24
go to the Kamala Harris rally, nothing wrong
24:26
with that. But if you are organizing crowds,
24:28
like say if you do a
24:31
game show, like if you host a game show,
24:33
you know, Wheel of Fortune, hello ladies and gentlemen.
24:35
Those people are all paid. Most
24:37
of them, or sometimes you let fans do
24:39
it for like a very popular show, but
24:41
I have personally been on a lot of
24:43
shows where the audience is paid. So
24:46
it's basically like, like if you're filming
24:49
a sitcom, you can, nobody
24:51
knows what the sitcom is. There's
24:53
a company that you can hire and you pay
24:55
the audience to come in. And the people cheer,
24:57
they have an applause sign, everybody cheers, they laugh
25:00
when you tell them to laugh. Like there's a
25:02
guy in the audience that's like doing this to
25:04
them that the people at home don't see. So
25:07
it's just, it's all theater, right? So
25:10
they could do that same
25:13
strategy for a political rally
25:15
easily. If you're talking about all the
25:17
money that you're going to be in
25:20
control of when you are the president
25:22
of the United States, which
25:24
is a spectacular position, not just that, but
25:27
then all the money you're going to make
25:29
in appearances and forever, right? You're going to
25:31
do Goldman Sachs talks and make a half
25:33
a million dollars for no apparent reason.
25:37
There's so much money involved. You don't
25:39
think you would pay audiences to come
25:41
and cheer? That's cheap. Yeah.
25:44
That's cheap. I don't know. I don't, do
25:46
you think that's immoral? Well,
25:49
I think we have like very
25:51
loose rules on what you're allowed to
25:53
do and what you're not allowed to
25:55
do. Like there was a lot of
25:58
outrage because people were saying that ABC
26:00
somehow or another had gotten the subject
26:02
matter to Kamala and that they had
26:04
agreed to Kamala that they were not
26:06
going to ask her about her DA
26:09
record when she was in California and
26:12
that they were not going to talk about some other person
26:14
she was involved with that might be in trouble. And
26:17
they weren't going to fact check her. And
26:19
then they said they were only going to fact check
26:21
Donald Trump. Which is
26:24
what led to her saying quite a
26:26
few things that weren't true and no
26:28
one said anything about it particularly about
26:30
troops being deployed overseas. You
26:32
see that video where the troops are like what
26:34
the fuck are you talking about? I got a
26:38
really good friend of mine that's deployed overseas
26:42
right now. Down
26:44
to Kamala Harris. And yeah he's
26:46
sniping bad guys over in
26:49
Africa. Yeah how mad would he be if
26:51
he heard that? I mean
26:53
they're pissed. Oh I'm not in a war zone.
26:56
They're pissed. They should be pissed.
26:59
So this is from
27:01
an Instagram account. I don't know what
27:03
podcast this clip came from but
27:05
let's just play it. Rally
27:08
5003 mobile devices at Kamala Harris's rally
27:11
in Charlotte, North Carolina on Thursday afternoon
27:13
it appears over 3600 came
27:16
from Georgia mainly Atlanta Georgia and approximately
27:18
720 from Savannah Georgia. So
27:21
that's a North Carolina rally with almost
27:23
80% of the attendees being
27:26
from Georgia. After you do the math that's
27:28
only 600 or so
27:30
local people from North Carolina that attended.
27:33
That's all who shows up and you're planning to
27:35
what get 80 something million votes again? Something ain't
27:37
right. And then all these people
27:39
come from buses and it's kind of weird because
27:41
at the Trump events you don't really have like
27:43
organized buses like that. People just kind of show
27:45
up and park on their own but at the
27:47
Kamala rally there's just these lines of buses at
27:49
every event which is weird and a lot of
27:51
the people are also the same people that attend
27:53
multiple rallies. Can you read those tweets? Any of
27:55
the same ones from previous events because this guy's
27:57
tracking the cell phones I guess and he says.
28:00
90% have been to three plus rallies, 54% were
28:04
even at Arizona and Nevada rallies.
28:06
Now, it could be that she
28:08
is so popular that it's like
28:10
Swifties, they just follow her around.
28:13
Or it could be like, you know, the Grateful Dead was in the
28:15
1970s. Maybe
28:18
that's what's going on. Maybe she's just so amazing
28:20
all of a sudden. Maybe she
28:22
just, Stella got her groove, you know? Something
28:24
happened and she just kicked into gear and
28:26
now she's her best self. She's
28:29
going to be the president. Yay, let's go to these
28:31
rallies. I'm sure that's what's going on. Could be
28:33
that. It could be that. I
28:37
don't think it's really immoral. It's just
28:40
immoral. It's just a rally.
28:42
Well, everybody wants their
28:44
rally to be full. I mean, you know,
28:46
it's just, I don't, it's
28:48
a facade, man. Yeah. If you can do it for
28:51
a game show, you could do it for a political
28:53
event. I don't think
28:55
it's immoral. I think if they did give
28:57
her the questions and they really did, and
28:59
this is, someone signed an affidavit. See what's
29:01
going on with that. See what's the latest
29:03
with that, Jamie. So someone
29:05
signed an affidavit that was an ABC employee
29:08
that claims these things. And
29:11
it was very clear there was bias. It
29:13
was very clear that they were fact checking him
29:15
and not fact checking her. But
29:17
it was, you know, unfortunately, he doesn't
29:20
do himself any favors because he kind of
29:22
goes off the rails sometimes. They're eating dogs.
29:24
They're eating cats, which by the
29:26
way, they may very well be doing that. That's
29:29
a thing they do in Haiti sometimes. Sometimes
29:32
they sacrifice animals and, you know, they
29:34
have local rituals, religious
29:36
rituals that they do. I
29:38
mean, this has been going on for a long time
29:40
though. You know, sometimes the Kung Pao chicken is a
29:42
chicken. Right. You know? I
29:45
mean, that's a real thing. That's a real thing. And to try
29:47
to pretend that it's racist to say that, no, no, no, humans
29:50
sometimes will do things. But I do
29:52
think that this, it says that this started with a claim
29:54
that there was an affidavit, but I don't know
29:56
that it's ever been actually presented to anyone. Interesting.
30:00
Um didn't didn't
30:03
it get discussed on Twitter and
30:05
people were posting about the veracity
30:07
of it Who I
30:09
think he won't even put it on his
30:11
pillow. Who's no Colin rug. I know had
30:13
it on his Yeah,
30:18
I Think
30:20
it's probably gonna be hard to tell unless charged a
30:22
file Congress, but it doesn't say that it was I
30:24
don't said it made it to Congress That's
30:28
right bill Ackman was a guy who tweeted it didn't
30:31
know if the claim was accurate but shared it anyway Which
30:33
is what's fun? It's fun to do in
30:36
the internet Vance addressed the
30:38
supposed whistleblowers allegations with reporters saying
30:40
it should be a national scandal
30:42
if true Trump again mentioned
30:44
the whistleblower September 13th at a rally in
30:46
Las Vegas claiming that Harris had received the
30:48
debate questions in advance Fortunately, we
30:50
had a leaker or a whistleblower. I don't care
30:52
which I love that person statement
31:00
Representative Dan Mouser Muser muser and
31:02
Pennsylvania Senate Fox News interview that
31:04
he would try to bring in
31:06
ABC News and the whistleblower before
31:08
Congress To testify about the affidavit
31:11
Hmm said that the person who did it was
31:13
killed in a car crash and that seems to
31:15
be false Yeah, that was a
31:17
that was a rant amplified by Marjorie Taylor
31:19
Greene who also doesn't do herself any favors
31:22
I think they do stuff like that This is
31:24
this is my take on that when I saw
31:26
all these people tweeting that the guy died in
31:28
a car crash I was like that
31:30
might be a trap That one
31:32
might be a trap. Yeah, I think they
31:34
do stuff like that well, they'll throw out
31:37
a fake story and get people to share
31:39
it like You know without
31:41
looking into it at all and it turns out to
31:43
be complete horse shit And it makes the whole thing
31:45
look like horse shit now now. It looks like the
31:47
makes the affidavit. It's at least Connected
31:49
to horse shit. Yeah, you know what I
31:51
mean? I mean, it's a good tactic. Yeah
31:53
smart tactic They get a lot of
31:55
good tactics They're very organized, which
31:58
is really interesting and that's One of the
32:00
things about Trump is that he's so dominant
32:02
and he's so swing from the hip that
32:05
no one can kind of corral him. And
32:09
it seems like she's really open
32:11
to being coached. Some
32:13
of these speeches are very different than any speeches
32:15
she's ever given before. And you see
32:17
the difference between that and then like, did you see
32:20
the Oprah interview? No. She's
32:22
off the rails. Yeah. Off the rails. I
32:25
heard about it. End of fucking wine mom country again. Wow. But
32:28
Tim Dylan is the best. She's saying, like, she's saying gypsy
32:30
curses. What is she saying? Oh
32:33
man. It's
32:36
like when you get her off the rails
32:38
and she is, it's
32:40
kind of fucked up, right? Because
32:42
that's not the job. The job
32:44
is not being able
32:46
to sound cool in
32:49
an interview with Oprah. That's
32:51
not the job. But that's the most important part about
32:53
getting the job. I just want
32:55
to hear like, you know, how they're going to accomplish
32:57
all this stuff. You know,
32:59
they're going to do it once they get in, even
33:01
though they're already in. That seems to be the typical
33:03
response, right? Well, one thing that
33:06
you can see like really clearly
33:08
is there is a ferocious effort
33:10
to stop Donald Trump from becoming
33:12
president again that I've never seen
33:15
before. I've never seen, I've seen
33:17
tight races. I've seen people very
33:19
divided. You know, I've
33:22
seen it for years. There's always
33:24
been like a division between the Republicans
33:26
and Democrats in this country, but not
33:28
like this, not like
33:30
this, where the guy almost gets killed twice and
33:32
they don't even talk about it. It's
33:35
scary, man. It's not scary. It almost
33:37
gets killed twice. And the second one, they just brushed
33:39
it off. Like I don't even think the guy got
33:41
a shot off. Yeah. Like
33:43
the guy was set up at a golf course for
33:45
12 hours with
33:48
a bulletproof vest on an AK-47 and
33:50
was specifically there to kill Trump. And you
33:52
don't think that's crazy? I think it's crazy.
33:55
They didn't cover it either. I mean, it
33:57
barely got covered. Barely, barely in and out.
34:00
of the guy or the guy's son gets
34:02
arrested for child pornography. Which
34:05
is... Do you know have you looked into
34:07
the BlackRock commercial stuff at all? Is that
34:10
real? The one shooter was in the BlackRock
34:12
commercial that was the kid that tried to
34:14
kill Trump. Yeah. They said
34:16
that this guy was in a BlackRock commercial but
34:18
I heard that that's not true. It's bullshit. But
34:21
that could be another one that they just throw out there. Yeah right. You
34:24
throw one out there like that and then
34:26
people retweet it and those people look stupid
34:28
because you retweeted something dumb and then it
34:30
just it weakens the public's faith
34:32
in what you have to say about things.
34:35
And also makes the story look stupid. Like
34:38
that story about that whistleblower will forever be
34:40
connected to people retweeting the fact that he
34:42
died in a car accident even though he
34:45
didn't die in a car accident. So it's
34:47
always going to be shrouded in bullshit. Yeah.
34:50
Kind of genius. It is man. It's
34:54
a great way to discredit. Yeah. It's
34:57
a great way to get somebody elected. Yeah.
35:00
Good point. Good point. It's
35:02
just it's when you're seeing the manipulation just
35:05
in full bloom just marching down the street
35:07
in front of everybody and no one's freaking
35:09
out about it. That's what's really weird. What
35:11
do you think I mean have you thought
35:14
about who's behind all this
35:17
this assassination attempts you think they're lone wolves
35:19
or. Well was
35:22
it Matt Gaetz that was saying that
35:24
he's been informed that there's five different
35:26
kill teams looking for Trump in the
35:28
country right now. Somebody did just say
35:31
that. Two of them are domestic. Trump
35:34
said it. There's five
35:37
guys. They
35:39
think they're going to get me. They're not going to
35:41
get me. So
35:45
what's the quote? Big threats on
35:47
my life by Iran. The US military is
35:50
watching and waiting. Moves already been made by
35:52
Iran that didn't work out but they will
35:54
try again. Not a good situation for anyone.
35:56
I am surrounded by more men guns and
35:58
weapons than I have ever. seen before.
36:00
Thank you to Congress for unanimously
36:03
approving far more money to Secret
36:05
Service. Zero, no
36:07
votes. What?
36:09
Zero, no votes, strictly bipartisan.
36:11
Okay. Oh, I understand.
36:13
Zero, no votes. Like, no one voted against
36:16
it. Strictly bipartisan. Nice to see Republicans
36:18
and Democrats get together on something. An attack
36:20
on a former president is a death wish
36:22
for the attacker. Yeah,
36:26
it wasn't just him that was saying that
36:28
though. It was, I'm pretty sure it was
36:30
Matt Gates. I
36:34
know I have that saved too, if you want to. But,
36:37
so if there really are five different
36:39
kill teams in the
36:42
country looking for Trump right now, that's just
36:44
insane. I bet it should be hard to
36:46
find him, you know? I mean, he has
36:48
rallies, you know, giant rallies. Yeah. In New
36:50
York, there was 60,000 people. See,
36:53
that's the difference between the Kamala Harris-Rous. If that
36:56
guy's telling the truth, and
36:59
they really are just sort of manipulating
37:01
this and putting on theater, that's
37:03
a big difference between what's happening with Trump.
37:06
If he's, he got, organically, you got 60,000
37:08
people to come see him and freak out
37:10
in New York. It's
37:13
kind of, the media is a monster. It
37:15
really is. It is a, it's
37:18
such an obvious monster. Such a
37:20
deceptive, sneaky, propagandist
37:22
monster. It's, how
37:25
long do you think the media has left?
37:27
They'll be around. You think so? It
37:30
all depends on who gets into office, really. It
37:33
depends on, so
37:35
the real fear was when
37:37
they started getting their claws into Twitter.
37:40
The real fear was when the
37:42
government started suppressing accurate information and
37:44
Twitter let them do it. That
37:47
was scary close. So
37:49
Elon buys Twitter, releases the Twitter
37:51
files, Michael Schellenberger, Matt Taibbi,
37:54
and all those journalists, they all uncover
37:56
all these different aspects that's super
37:59
disturbing. and totally illegal and
38:02
they release everything. And
38:04
then Twitter becomes kind of crazy. Twitter
38:07
is wild now. It's
38:09
just totally wild, wild west, unregulated.
38:12
And then, what do you got, Jamie? This
38:16
is it? I got it. Yeah,
38:18
okay. One of the five known teams
38:20
hunting President Trump before Butler, Pennsylvania
38:23
attempt was Ukrainian. So this is
38:25
Matt Gaetz talking about this. But
38:28
I think that if that hadn't
38:31
happened, so if
38:33
all of social media
38:35
remained like staunch leftist
38:37
left wing, just
38:40
giving completely into whatever propaganda the
38:42
government wants to give them regarding
38:45
vaccines or Ukraine
38:47
or anything else with
38:49
no critical
38:52
arguments about it that are accepted.
38:54
Just anybody who doesn't
38:56
follow the narrative, especially people like,
38:59
they censored people from
39:01
Stanford and MIT. They
39:04
were trying to tell them to poll those
39:06
guys, like Jay Bhattacharya, all these doctors about
39:09
COVID. Yeah. Oh yeah, I did. I
39:11
did. Sensoring legitimate experts
39:13
in the field who aren't kooks,
39:15
guys like Peter McCullough, who's the
39:17
most published doctor in
39:19
his field of study in human history. And
39:22
they're like, no, no, you're a kook. And
39:25
we know now that that was not true
39:27
and he was correct. Now we all know,
39:29
right? All these years later, most
39:32
people kind of know what the fuck happened. Even
39:34
the people reluctant to admit they got duped. If
39:38
Elon does not come along and buy Twitter, I don't
39:40
know where we are right now. I really don't. Because
39:43
if they had the clamps on Twitter, and
39:46
they did the same thing with Twitter that they're
39:48
doing right now with other social media apps, it
39:50
would be fucking awful out there. And
39:55
Elon's been a blessing. He really has. I'm
39:57
sorry. It's a big one. I
40:00
mean, I don't think they're going
40:02
to be around that much longer. I
40:04
feel like that the media will die
40:06
with the baby boomer generation. I think
40:08
if Elon didn't buy Twitter, they would
40:10
have been fine. I really
40:12
do. Probably. The only thing that
40:14
fucks them up is YouTube, but they've got a clamp on
40:17
YouTube too. You know, YouTube is,
40:20
they're very restrictive in what you can talk
40:22
about, especially during the
40:24
pandemic. They would ban you
40:26
from YouTube for talking about things that
40:29
we know for a fact are true
40:31
now. We
40:34
deal with a lot of that. We deal with a lot
40:36
of it, right? I'll bet you did too. Oh yeah. Anybody
40:38
on YouTube, I mean, you have to like parse
40:40
your words. You know, like Jimmy
40:42
Dore, even when he's criticizing the vaccine, he said, but
40:45
you should take the vaccine because it's safe and effective.
40:47
He always has to say it, like to cover his
40:49
ass. Like it was a joke. Was it nice for
40:51
you to come off YouTube? Did
40:53
you enjoy that when it first happened? My
40:56
strategy was ... Was it a huge pain in the ass gone? No.
41:00
I don't pay attention to it. But my strategy was to become 10%
41:02
less famous. So when I
41:04
went over to Spotify, Spotify was going to give
41:06
me all this money and I was like, oh
41:08
great, just fucking be a little less famous too.
41:11
That'd be good. Like kind of like
41:13
go the Howard Stern route, kind of fade
41:16
off into the sunset. Yeah. Did it work?
41:19
No, it didn't work. Did I know? I
41:21
was going to get caught up in
41:23
this massive controversy, you know? But it
41:25
also, even before that,
41:27
this podcast was growing on Spotify
41:30
a little too quick. But
41:33
so there's no like extra pressure being
41:35
on YouTube, but there
41:38
is a pressure if you're relying on YouTube. If you're relying
41:40
on them. I guess I meant with the ... Because they'll
41:43
demonetize you. That's what I meant. I meant with like the
41:45
censorship stuff. I was wondering, you know ... You want to
41:47
hear something interesting? Yeah. We
41:49
got demonetized all the time. A lot of episodes
41:51
got demonetized. Still we announced that
41:53
we're going to go exclusive to Spotify. And
41:56
then from that moment out, there was like a
41:58
few months of a window. No kidding.
42:00
They never demonetized us. They just took all the
42:02
money. Like don't go, Joe. No, they didn't. No,
42:04
no, no. It wasn't that.
42:06
They wanted the money now. Interesting. So
42:10
what they're trying to do essentially is get you to fall
42:12
in line by getting you
42:14
to self-censor because it benefits
42:16
you financially. It's
42:20
a creepy form of censorship because
42:22
you do it to yourself and
42:25
it's kind of okay because you can't really
42:28
prove that they got you to not talk
42:30
about things you wanted to talk about and
42:32
they can't really prove that you've followed this
42:34
public narrative just because you want to keep
42:36
your job. I mean, I just...
42:41
You don't really bother me
42:43
is because we
42:46
both put a lot into this, you know, and what
42:48
bothers me it's like just tell me what you want
42:50
me to take out. What is it? I
42:53
don't even want to fucking tell you. I don't want
42:55
to talk to them. This is
42:57
how my feeling on the thing is. I don't think
43:00
they should be talking to people about what to put
43:02
in. I think if you're not doing anything illegal, if
43:04
you're not saying anything illegal or doing anything illegal, don't
43:07
take it off. Some
43:09
of it I totally with you. Some
43:12
of it I get, you know, like,
43:14
you know, pedophilia. 100%
43:17
illegal stuff. Even language, I mean, there's three-year-olds
43:19
out watching. I got a three-year-old kid, you
43:21
know, he's watching YouTube. Remember, they have YouTube
43:23
kids. YouTube kids is great. So I get
43:25
it when they like mark my shit with
43:27
18 plus, but
43:31
they won't tell me. You know, it's like, well, just
43:33
like I can't correct the fucking
43:35
problem if you don't tell me what it is.
43:38
Right. And I mean,
43:40
they just don't want to abide. They
43:43
don't want to box themselves in and
43:46
not be able to censor
43:49
somebody. Yeah, there's that. And there's no benefit
43:51
for them to tell you what you said
43:53
that was wrong. There's no
43:56
benefit. The good thing is to get you
43:58
to self-censor. That's the best. over
44:00
you, that's why they give you strikes. One
44:02
strike, two strikes, Sean you got three
44:05
strikes. You know, it's kind
44:07
of silly, it's weird. It's like, is this the
44:09
penal system or is this a goddamn social media
44:11
platform? It should be if
44:14
advertisers don't wanna advertise on that particular
44:16
content, okay, that seems easy to manage
44:18
guys and guess what? There'd be a
44:20
lot of advertisers that would be willing
44:22
to advertise on that content. You're just
44:24
not being creative enough with
44:27
your advertisement. If you're just treating it as
44:29
a business or are
44:31
you treating it as not
44:33
just a social media video
44:35
website but a way to
44:37
push and a way to
44:40
amplify a very specific message.
44:42
I mean, if you can control what comes
44:45
out of people's mouths and you can control what they
44:47
think. Yeah, and if you're making a
44:49
lot of money on YouTube and you're doing great, you're
44:51
like, wow, I've got a fucking real good life now.
44:54
And then all of a sudden YouTube comes along
44:56
and says, oh, you were talking about the vaccines, Sean.
44:59
Sean, we can't have COVID vaccine
45:01
misinformation on our platform. This is
45:03
gonna cost lives. And some platforms
45:05
make you do a reeducation thing
45:07
where you have to talk to
45:09
them and have conversations with them
45:11
about what you did that may
45:13
have been offensive or what you
45:15
did that may have violated the
45:17
terms and conditions that they have
45:19
for their community. Yeah, I
45:22
think we had to do that.
45:24
I think we did that. They've
45:26
been fucking creepy. That shit's fucking
45:28
creepy because you're dealing with some
45:30
fucking woke kid in Silicon Valley
45:32
who uptalks. And this person,
45:34
okay, what you're doing, Sean, right
45:37
now with your show, I know that
45:39
you don't think it's harmful, but it
45:41
really is. It really is. It's
45:44
truly harmful. It's truly
45:46
harmful, exposing government corruption. I
45:49
can tell. I can, it's real
45:51
harmful, all right. It's fucking
45:53
weird, man. It's weird, but I'd love
45:55
the fact that at least it exists.
45:58
And even though it's not perfect. Because I
46:01
don't think YouTube can be perfect because they're
46:03
managing at scale in order for them to
46:05
get all the pornography and the murder You
46:07
know cartels upload murder videos to YouTube like
46:09
they're constantly trying to put out fires You
46:12
imagine the amount of data that YouTube has to deal with
46:14
on a daily basis It kind
46:16
of behooves them to just get just fucking
46:18
give them strikes and threaten them Let's just
46:20
slow everything down like too much of this
46:23
getting us in trouble. We just want to
46:25
make a lot of money Yeah, I got
46:27
it. I get it. There's only one YouTube
46:29
It's kind of genius and it's
46:31
a perfect setup like the algorithm where it's constantly
46:34
Like recommending stuff that you're interested
46:36
in it's fucking great great time
46:38
waster, but it's also a
46:41
tool for Shaping narratives
46:44
and if only one narrative is
46:46
pushed out there and other narratives
46:48
will literally get you Demonetized
46:51
so you lose your ability to make a
46:53
living and then possibly get your whole channel
46:55
removed Which it did to many people they
46:57
just remove their whole channel Why
47:00
babe, where do you think this is gonna end? I think
47:03
it is that should be all that stuff we
47:05
talked about should be illegal that should stuff should
47:07
be covered in the First Amendment Demonetization
47:09
no because look if you want to
47:12
have standards where you say that The
47:16
advertisers that we have we have a
47:18
group of advertisers and they have requested
47:21
No shows where someone swears no
47:23
no shows where someone talks about
47:25
sex No shows where someone
47:27
talks about over drinking or anything like that.
47:29
They just have rules We don't want to
47:32
be associated with that that okay,
47:34
that's totally reasonable, but when you want to
47:36
like Stop a channel
47:38
from uploading a video because they're making
47:40
an argument that maybe the lab leak
47:43
hypothesis is legitimate And you're
47:45
pulling that off the air. Well
47:47
now what are you doing? If you're you're
47:49
deleting an episode that's accurate
47:52
about really dangerous
47:55
information dangerous information
47:57
not just to us but also to the
47:59
organizations that that paid for
48:01
these crazy gain of function research projects.
48:03
What the fuck are you doing and
48:06
what did you do? And
48:08
if you were talking about that on YouTube and
48:10
even expressing your
48:13
ability to just guess that
48:17
maybe it came from that area. Have you ever seen that
48:19
Jon Stewart interview where he was on the Colbert Show? Yeah.
48:22
Fucking amazing, right? Amazing. But even
48:24
that, Colbert's trying to stop him and just
48:27
saying maybe these people were
48:29
working on these fucking viruses, let one leak.
48:32
Maybe, that would get you removed from
48:34
YouTube. That's a violation
48:36
of the First Amendment, in my opinion. Yeah.
48:39
Because you should, especially some of these people
48:42
were very informed people. They
48:44
were biologists and they were talking about
48:46
the very specific design of this virus,
48:48
the faring cleavage sites and how it's
48:50
very different than anything you see from
48:52
a natural spillover. They were talking about
48:55
technical, very specific details and they were
48:57
getting banned. Brett Weinstein almost
48:59
lost his channel. He almost lost his,
49:01
yes. I didn't know that. Yes. I
49:03
didn't know that. We had to have him on, do an emergency
49:05
podcast and let people know what the fuck was going on. Damn.
49:08
They almost pulled his channel. Damn. He's
49:10
a biologist, a
49:13
brilliant one and he's talking about
49:15
real information. It's
49:17
scary, man. I mean, I don't
49:20
know, I think about it all the
49:22
time, obviously, in this industry. I
49:24
hope X turns out to be the new thing. I
49:28
don't think X is going anywhere. I think Elon knows how important it
49:30
is and he's got all the money in the world. I think
49:32
he'll keep that bitch running. And I think it's also getting attached to AI
49:34
now, which is gonna be an insane money maker. I
49:38
don't think X has any problems. I think X is, he's gonna grow it
49:40
into some sort of an all in one app. He'll
49:43
probably have cryptocurrency on it and private
49:45
messaging and phone calls. You'll be able
49:47
to shop on it and you'll be able to
49:49
shop on it and you'll be able to get a little bit
49:51
of money because you'll be able to shop
49:54
on it. That's what it's probably going to be, if
49:56
I had to guess. And I think
49:58
that for places like Rumble,
50:01
the more places like YouTube and
50:03
Facebook and all these other places, the more
50:06
they can find people and the more they
50:08
force people into these boxes and make people
50:10
toe the line if they want to make
50:12
any money off of advertising or if they
50:14
don't want to get their channel deleted, the
50:17
more companies like Rumble will emerge.
50:19
That's what I think. I think there's going to be just, right
50:22
now, Rumble's a hard sell for some folks
50:24
because they see it as like, oh, the
50:27
right wing fucking like a magga. I'm not
50:29
going to be a true social video. There's
50:32
a lot of people that have those prejudices, but you
50:35
know, Russell Brands on there, a lot of
50:37
people are on there. It's a good platform
50:39
and it's an important platform and we should
50:41
support it and want it to grow. We
50:43
should want them all to grow. Like Spotify's
50:45
got video now. We need more video because
50:48
audio is just not enough. It's
50:51
audio podcasts. You
50:53
want people to share things virally and
50:56
the virally stuff, it's all like Elon
50:58
Musk when you smoked a blunt on
51:00
my podcast. That's all video. You want
51:02
video of that. The
51:04
more we have platforms where that
51:06
stuff is just free, where you can just
51:08
say whatever you want, say whatever you think
51:10
about anything, which really X and Rumble are
51:12
the only places that I know of that
51:14
you could really do that right now. Have
51:17
you had any problem on audio at
51:19
all? No. Good. No.
51:23
Good. I haven't either. I
51:26
think it's probably because it's not as easily shared. That's
51:29
what's coming next. Yeah, probably. I mean, all
51:31
they would have to do is just put
51:33
images of you and images of me and
51:35
then have our audio and upload that as
51:37
a video. Then maybe they would
51:40
start coming after audio. Yeah. Yeah.
51:44
I mean, I hope, you know, I just
51:46
hope this shit starts to turn around. I
51:49
do too, but I don't think it turns around
51:51
if Karma Harris gets into office. I think they
51:53
clamp down more. I think the same stuff that
51:56
they were trying to do with Twitter, they'll try
51:58
to do with something else, with other things. They've
52:00
already openly discussed it. You
52:03
know, she's openly discussed that the same rules have
52:05
to apply to Facebook, they have to apply to
52:07
Twitter, and that Elon Musk could lose his privileges.
52:09
And like, there's so many wild things that
52:11
they're saying. Tim Wall said
52:14
that the First Amendment doesn't apply
52:16
to misinformation or hate speech. Okay,
52:19
well, it certainly does. It does. You
52:21
know, sometimes people say things wrong. And the goal
52:23
of the First Amendment is you say something wrong,
52:26
and then this guy who's an expert says the
52:28
right thing. Yeah. You correct them. Yeah,
52:31
I mean, the misinformation,
52:33
it's all opinion. Right. Well,
52:35
so much of it turns out to be true. How about masks don't
52:37
work? You would get screamed at for
52:39
masks don't work. Well, guess what? They don't
52:42
fucking work. They don't work. I
52:44
remember. Fauci said masks don't work.
52:46
Remember that interview before the pandemic, before they knew
52:48
how big it was going to be? Yes.
52:51
He was like, you don't have to wear a mask.
52:53
Then it was wear two. Then it was wear doubles.
52:55
Put two-face diapers on. It's bananas
52:57
how easily people fell in line. That
52:59
scared me the most. I know.
53:02
It was, I mean, it's like, what
53:05
are you doing? There's
53:08
nothing they won't do. There's
53:11
nothing they won't do. There's a lot of cowards
53:13
out there. There's a lot of people that have
53:15
never been pushed, and they don't know what to do when they
53:17
get nervous. And they're out there
53:19
voting. Do you think
53:21
they're cowards, or do you
53:23
think they're
53:25
just lazy and they like
53:28
being told what to do? There's both.
53:30
It takes all the decisions out of
53:32
their day. There's both. But there's also
53:34
people that are scared of a negative
53:36
response, so they say what everybody wants
53:38
them to say. Somebody
53:41
described this really very eloquently, and I saved it
53:43
on my phone because I was like, this guy
53:45
nailed it. But essentially they were saying, especially
53:48
with beta males, they
53:50
don't say something because they have
53:52
an opinion and they really want
53:54
to express that opinion. They say
53:56
something and they consider, am
53:58
I going to get in trouble if I... I say this." And
54:01
then if that's the case, they don't. And
54:05
am I going to get in trouble if I
54:07
agree with them and probably not because right wing
54:09
people don't really go after you the same way
54:11
left wing people do? Like if
54:13
you want to talk about a woman's right to choose. If
54:16
you want to say, I agree with a woman's right to choose, but
54:18
like Bill Burr's bit, you ever see that bit? And
54:20
he goes, I think I agree with a woman's
54:22
right to choose, but I also think you're killing
54:24
a baby. You know, it's kind
54:27
of a crazy bit. Because it's really funny
54:29
because he's brilliant, but it's just
54:31
that's really what it is. I mean, that's
54:33
the truth. That is what it is. It
54:35
is what it is. I mean, factually, that
54:38
is what it is. And this is coming
54:40
from someone who's pro-choice. But
54:42
I think that if
54:46
you look at all the things that they
54:48
have that distract us, all the
54:50
different things that are in the news
54:52
constantly, whether it's the Diddy Raid or
54:54
fucking J.Lo and Ben Affleck are breaking
54:57
up and you're just getting force
54:59
fed all kinds of
55:01
shit while the border is wide open,
55:04
while they have apps where people can
55:06
get flights. The BP1 app. What
55:09
the fuck? Yeah. That sounds
55:11
like the crazy, you know, I
55:13
had Chamath on. Do you know Chamath?
55:15
I don't want to mispronounce his last
55:17
name. I'll fuck it up. Brilliant, brilliant
55:19
guy. And we were talking about how
55:21
hard it was for his family to
55:23
legally immigrate into this country and how
55:25
difficult it was to get a visa.
55:28
And I mean, this is a brilliant
55:30
guy. He started Facebook. You know, he's
55:32
one of the original guys at Facebook.
55:34
And he's this guy
55:37
who did it the right way.
55:39
And every step of the way, there was this
55:41
tremendous anxiety when he would go to get his
55:43
visa renewed because he didn't know if he was
55:45
going to get kicked out of the country because
55:47
someone could arbitrarily go, no, not good enough. Because
55:49
he had to prove to be here that he
55:51
has skills that an American doesn't have. He's
55:54
a real expert in something. You
55:57
know, I went down to the
55:59
border. I think it was about two two
56:02
years ago ish maybe a little longer and Went
56:05
down with Ed Calderon and
56:08
I love it. Yeah, what a great guy great guy.
56:10
I've had him out a couple times Yeah, that's well.
56:12
That's where I found him. So thank you But
56:16
so now I went down to TJ
56:18
with them and this was
56:20
this was like before it
56:22
really really hit this hit the news
56:24
cycle and We walked
56:27
into a migrant camp. There's probably a couple
56:29
thousand migrants there and so
56:31
I yanked one of them out and interviewed him and
56:35
You know used Ed to help translate and
56:37
I Mean the guy's
56:40
been sitting there for like I think he was there
56:42
with his wife and kids for like two years and
56:45
I I was like, why don't you
56:47
just like? Go
56:49
across dude. It's I mean, it's an honest question
56:51
like why don't you just go across? He said
56:53
he wanted to do it the right way Wow,
56:55
you know, he's like now he's like I just
56:58
want to do it the right way Oh my
57:00
god, he's running around with this little battery
57:02
pack charging cell phones for 50 cents
57:05
you know and I'm like I'm just
57:08
like fuck it. Hey, man, like why don't like why
57:10
don't they just? Because
57:12
I don't nobody's Anti-immigration
57:14
no not that I know of and it's
57:16
no where I can't see yeah Why
57:20
don't you just unfuck the immigration
57:22
process and maybe we can get
57:24
some more people in here quicker?
57:27
Legally if you do
57:29
that and then we actually know who's coming
57:31
in and we have documentation of who they
57:33
are and wouldn't that be nice Yeah, you
57:35
know, meanwhile, that's racist. Yeah
57:39
Yeah And they want
57:41
them to vote which is even crazier and they're pumping
57:43
them out into swing states. It's so transparent It's
57:46
it's happening right in front of everybody's face and
57:49
it's it's a wild grab for power
57:51
and The
57:54
only people talking about are people like us which
57:56
is really crazy They're the only people
57:58
that are talking about it are people that aren't really connected
58:00
to some sort of Executive corporation a
58:02
bunch of producers bunch of people telling
58:04
you what to do. Yeah I
58:07
mean, this is not even something that
58:09
you know that right-wing news wants to
58:11
discuss good point good point I mean
58:14
if you if you have you done
58:16
any digging on who's coming across there
58:18
and yeah It's I
58:20
talked to Phil about it. Dr. Phil did
58:22
this big investigation, you know, he's got that
58:24
He's got his own network now merit media
58:27
It's gotten so bad that dr. Phil decided
58:29
he has to start a network for news
58:31
good for him, man He's great guy good
58:33
for him great guy, but you know, he
58:35
was essentially, you know Talking about
58:37
how this they
58:39
really don't know how many people that are coming
58:41
through that are criminals They're dropping off their their
58:43
IDs on the Mexican side. They just get rid
58:46
of their IDs so that when they cross over
58:48
They have nothing on them. You don't
58:50
know who they are. You don't know what they've done gang
58:52
members cartel members guys escaping Venezuelan prisons. No
58:54
one knows. Yeah, all you have to do
58:56
is get over here and we'll give you
58:58
an EBT card We'll set you up go
59:00
to New York City that put you in
59:02
a nice hotel to give you free food
59:04
I mean while these poor people in Chicago
59:06
that are like, what about us? What about American
59:09
citizens that pay tax dollars? You guys don't give
59:11
a fuck about us. You didn't you haven't
59:13
done anything for us. Why because they know those
59:15
people gonna vote Democrat They
59:17
know they already got them. They already got them.
59:20
We've got those people statistically. They look at
59:22
the numbers like statistically This has gone blue. We're
59:24
fine. Yeah, we're good. Let's just let's let's
59:26
just get some people in them swing states and
59:29
It's fucking scary man. I mean I've been I've been
59:31
diving into the border shit for quite a while and
59:33
and ever since
59:36
this Afghanistan withdraw that like I
59:39
mean that was like a big I Mean
59:42
I was just fucking did you talk to Tim about
59:44
that Tim Kennedy when you had him on a little
59:46
bit a little bit Dude,
59:49
he told me some shit He
59:52
told me some shit they just You
59:55
can't imagine like that guy saw so
59:57
much overseas and he said the worst
59:59
thing He ever saw was the the
1:00:02
Afghanistan pullout dude. I've you
1:00:04
know who Tyler Andrew Vargas is no
1:00:06
That's the that's the one Marine that
1:00:08
survived that big explode that suicide bombing
1:00:10
at Abigail Abigail was killed 13 Marines.
1:00:12
Yeah, and So
1:00:17
I called him well, everybody wanted to become on
1:00:19
the show and I was like I'm never gonna
1:00:21
get this fucking guy like all the media everybody
1:00:24
wants them and I Was
1:00:26
like alright fine. I'll reach out. So hit
1:00:29
him on hit him on the on the gram
1:00:31
and Messaged
1:00:33
right back and he got in and he's like man.
1:00:35
He's like I'm so
1:00:37
glad that you reached out to
1:00:39
me He's like I was literally just praying
1:00:42
with my fiance that you would reach out
1:00:44
cuz Wow He had just did an ABC.
1:00:46
Good morning America interview interviewed for seven hours
1:00:49
They released five seconds of that
1:00:51
interview because it made the administration
1:00:53
look so fucking bad They would
1:00:55
they wouldn't Eric so I
1:00:58
got him on kept getting dinged, you know
1:01:00
by YouTube They didn't like they didn't like
1:01:02
the the real footage It
1:01:04
was which was actually like from his cell phone
1:01:06
that we put we do previews and shit, but
1:01:10
man like to have like his, you know
1:01:13
testimony about what happened that day and
1:01:16
and and
1:01:19
then the the care that Afterwards
1:01:22
which was a fucking atrocious, you know
1:01:24
guy. I watched this guy
1:01:26
my studio is on the second story and I
1:01:30
watch it, you know, 23 year old kid Hobble
1:01:33
up those fucking stairs with one
1:01:36
leg one arm All
1:01:39
kinds of shit going on as intestine. I mean, I just
1:01:41
I was like Man this
1:01:43
didn't even have to happen. They had the guy
1:01:45
they had the fucking guy in
1:01:47
the sights. They could have killed him and You
1:01:51
know nobody Nobody
1:01:54
gave him permission just you know, maybe
1:01:56
they I mean I
1:01:58
can't backseat quarterback it but but maybe they
1:02:01
shouldn't have asked, just eliminated him. Jesus Christ.
1:02:03
But I mean, he's talking about, before
1:02:06
we got into the actual incident, he was talking
1:02:08
about, moms
1:02:12
trying to throw their babies over
1:02:14
the wall and getting caught up
1:02:16
in razor wire and
1:02:18
just seeing a fucking baby dangle there by
1:02:20
the leg. And
1:02:24
there's no repercussions for how that
1:02:26
went down. The media just wants
1:02:29
to fucking cover it up.
1:02:31
And so I started digging deep
1:02:33
and I teamed up with the
1:02:35
former CA target, Sarah Adams, and
1:02:39
then a really good friend of mine, Scott Mann. We
1:02:42
went over to Vienna to
1:02:44
interview this guy, Ahmad Masoud, who's the
1:02:46
leader, the commander of the Northern Alliance
1:02:48
out there that's like the resistance that's
1:02:50
kind of fighting the Taliban. You
1:02:54
know, the Taliban pretty much took over
1:02:56
government in Afghanistan. I saw
1:02:58
the parade. Yeah. With
1:03:00
all our shit. With all our shit. That we
1:03:02
left there. Crazy. Yeah, man. So
1:03:04
we got a bunch of
1:03:06
intel from Masoud and you know,
1:03:09
like still kind of looping all
1:03:11
the way back around to the southern border. I mean,
1:03:14
so once Taliban took control
1:03:16
of all of our shit,
1:03:19
I mean, this could go on for a while, but
1:03:22
so now what they're doing is they have the, the
1:03:26
passport office over there, just
1:03:29
making legitimate passports to, now
1:03:33
there's 21 terrorist organizations over there
1:03:35
training. Hansa
1:03:38
Bin Laden, who we were told
1:03:40
was killed is actually fucking alive.
1:03:42
And he's marrying into all these
1:03:44
other terrorist networks. So he married
1:03:46
Mola Omar's daughter. He married,
1:03:49
who else? He married into all these
1:03:51
different terrorist networks. And so these guys
1:03:53
used to be like competitors just
1:03:55
like the UFO guys. They
1:03:58
all hate it. each other
1:04:00
but they all have the one common theme
1:04:02
like disclosure. These guys, the one common thing
1:04:04
is, you know, let's go take
1:04:06
over the Western world. So he
1:04:09
is basically Hansa Bin Laden is
1:04:12
married into all these terrorist organizations. Now
1:04:14
they all have one common goal to
1:04:16
come over to, you know, the
1:04:19
Western world and ruin our way of
1:04:21
life. And so what they're
1:04:23
doing is they're funneling as many of
1:04:25
these terrorists into the passport office, getting
1:04:27
them legitimate real passports
1:04:29
and then they sprinkle them, they
1:04:32
get them flights into all over
1:04:34
South Central America and then they
1:04:36
funnel them up through
1:04:39
the Darien Gap into
1:04:41
the US. And so, you know,
1:04:43
there is zero, I don't give a
1:04:46
fuck what the FBI or any of
1:04:48
these people are saying, they have, there
1:04:50
is zero way to track how
1:04:53
many of these fuckers have come in to
1:04:55
the US. And so, you know,
1:04:57
now what we're going to see is like October
1:05:00
7 style attacks like we just saw in
1:05:02
Israel and in the mall in Russia and
1:05:06
everybody's like, Oh, you know, there's well, why
1:05:08
is it happening? By design, by
1:05:12
design, like the leaving the border,
1:05:14
border porous, allowing these people
1:05:16
to come in. Absolutely. I think
1:05:18
it's by design. I mean, they basically told
1:05:20
border patrol, come in down, like do not
1:05:22
do your fucking job. We're going to blast
1:05:25
you. I mean, remember the guy on the
1:05:27
horse that they said was whipping people
1:05:29
and it wound up being like the reins of
1:05:32
the horse. I mean, yeah, I think
1:05:34
it's by design, you
1:05:37
know, from the government. But
1:05:39
I don't, I think that they're, look,
1:05:42
I think that the government is more incompetent
1:05:45
than it's ever been
1:05:47
before. And I think they
1:05:49
have one common goal and that I
1:05:51
think the goal is voting, you
1:05:53
know, they want them to vote. But I don't
1:05:55
think that they, I don't think
1:05:58
they're competent enough to realize the
1:06:01
death and destruction and the
1:06:03
other repercussions that we're going
1:06:05
to face by
1:06:08
keeping that border open.
1:06:10
Because they don't have anybody that
1:06:15
they don't have anybody with any experience that's that's
1:06:18
that they don't have any solid intelligence stuff
1:06:20
going on that's that's telling them like hey this
1:06:22
is what's going to happen it's all agenda
1:06:24
driven. Jesus Christ. Does that make sense? Yeah it
1:06:26
does make sense. It does make sense that
1:06:28
all they care about is voting is
1:06:30
get the people in don't worry
1:06:32
about the consequences but the more
1:06:34
insidious conspiracy would be that they
1:06:36
want unrest because it gives
1:06:39
them an opportunity to clamp down on rights. I
1:06:41
mean shit though they I mean unrest I mean
1:06:44
they got really good at unrest you
1:06:46
know what I mean in 2020 right
1:06:50
all through or even before 2020. Yeah. Up to
1:06:54
that election so I don't think
1:06:56
they need to import terrorism. Yeah but it's a
1:06:58
different kind of unrest. The kind of unrest that
1:07:01
you get from people blowing up
1:07:03
target is very different than
1:07:05
the kind of unrest you get from a
1:07:07
legitimate terror attack. Yeah yeah I
1:07:09
mean you know and then people
1:07:11
I mean do you ever think about why nothing's happened
1:07:14
you know like China if you
1:07:16
looked into the power grid at all. Yeah
1:07:18
dude it's not good lights out buddy.
1:07:21
It's so easy to kill. Yeah the
1:07:23
power grid so weak it's
1:07:25
so vulnerable it's really nuts. It's
1:07:28
nuts because anybody could target it. Yeah
1:07:31
well I mean China you know we have
1:07:33
those we have we
1:07:36
have you know we get those big trans
1:07:39
everything's imported from China and we have
1:07:41
these huge you know transformers you
1:07:43
could tell me shut up if you already know all the shit but
1:07:46
all of those transformers are imported from
1:07:49
China and they're not checked they're not
1:07:51
even they don't even fucking check them
1:07:53
for malware or Trojan horses
1:07:55
or anything and it would take I mean
1:07:58
these transformers it's not like little box outside
1:08:00
your house, you know, the green box. It's,
1:08:03
I mean, they have to take overpasses out
1:08:06
just to transport these things. So you're talking
1:08:08
years and I think the number was like
1:08:10
nine. If they took out
1:08:13
nine transformers, then the entire
1:08:16
US would be out of power. On
1:08:18
top of that, so then DOE,
1:08:21
Department of Energy, actually investigated
1:08:24
one because somebody was, it
1:08:28
got to DC that, whatever. They
1:08:30
decided to look into it and
1:08:32
they wouldn't fucking release the results. They
1:08:35
wouldn't fucking release the results. So,
1:08:39
you know, they're in our water treatment
1:08:41
plants, they're in our power grid. I've
1:08:43
been talking about this shit from years and then
1:08:46
cell phone towers, cell phone
1:08:48
towers, and then FBI
1:08:50
director Chris Ray comes out and says, oh yeah,
1:08:53
turns out our
1:08:56
grid's really vulnerable. China's in there
1:08:58
and they're also in our treatment plants,
1:09:00
which means they can fucking poison us.
1:09:02
Yeah, they in the own land around
1:09:04
military bases. Like, it's, if they are
1:09:06
on a long-term strategy, it's
1:09:09
very effective. They're doing a great job. Just
1:09:11
get, they undercut the competition to give us
1:09:13
cell phone towers and all sorts of things.
1:09:15
They position them around military bases. Mike Baker
1:09:17
was explaining all of it to me. Yeah.
1:09:19
And I'm like, this is, how
1:09:22
is this, how are they letting this go
1:09:24
through? Is it incompetence? Is it fools running
1:09:26
it? Is, are they corrupt? Like,
1:09:29
how did they do that? I
1:09:31
mean, one of the things that really fucked us, we
1:09:33
got away from manufacturing and we relied on all these
1:09:35
countries and we really found that out during COVID when
1:09:37
you couldn't get shipments. It was like,
1:09:40
whoa, wait a minute, how much of our
1:09:42
shit is made over there? Like everything? Like
1:09:44
how much medicine is made overseas? How many
1:09:46
different things that we need that we constantly
1:09:48
use, we don't even know how to make.
1:09:50
Yeah. A lot. Masks. You
1:09:54
see those purple, pulling the fucking masks
1:09:56
out. You know, I didn't wear
1:09:58
them very long, but I'd. Whatever I
1:10:00
fell for for about 30 days. Did I
1:10:03
was like this is fucking bullshit? Yeah,
1:10:06
you pull the mask out and and
1:10:08
I live out in the woods sudden, you know, but Yeah,
1:10:12
made in China. I'm like what didn't the thing
1:10:14
come? Yeah from the third they're making money
1:10:17
hand over fees, right? The
1:10:20
whole thing is not go us yeah, it's
1:10:22
nuts But getting away from manufacturing this country
1:10:25
really did not do this country any justice
1:10:27
It's just for corporations to save a little
1:10:29
bit of money and to push everything
1:10:31
off to third world countries to manufacture things
1:10:34
It's including our phones And I've said this
1:10:36
over and over again if Apple could make
1:10:38
an American made phone and charge me more
1:10:40
money I'll pay double for it. Yeah, charge
1:10:43
me a phone where I
1:10:45
know the people get union wages They
1:10:47
get health care they get paid correctly
1:10:50
They can live a good life and they work
1:10:52
normal hours They don't have to sleep in a
1:10:54
fucking bunk like they do in that Foxconn building
1:10:56
when they have nets all around the building You
1:10:58
keep people from jumping from the roofs. Yeah, you've
1:11:00
seen that shit, right? No,
1:11:03
actually I haven't seen that no
1:11:05
the Chinese factories where they make
1:11:07
iPhones are so fucked The people
1:11:09
are so distraught that they put
1:11:12
all these fencing with giant
1:11:14
nets All around the buildings
1:11:16
because so many people were jumping to their
1:11:19
death that they decided we'll just catch them
1:11:21
with nets Are you serious? Yeah, look at
1:11:23
this. Those are the nets. Those
1:11:25
are suicide nets all around the building Sorry,
1:11:27
buddy back to the assembly line. How crazy
1:11:29
is that? Damn that is fucked up man.
1:11:31
How crazy is that? Wow, instead of making
1:11:33
the conditions better where people don't Want
1:11:36
to kill themselves so often that you need
1:11:38
nets around a building they go nah nets
1:11:40
is fine. Fuck those people. Dude. It's I
1:11:42
mean it's straight Slavery.
1:11:45
Yeah, it's close to it. I
1:11:47
mean they don't really have any other options and
1:11:49
when you're getting a phone You
1:11:52
know and what's a phone like to?
1:11:56
1500 bucks. Is that what it is charge 2000? Yeah charge 2000
1:12:00
People pay it you most people are like putting on
1:12:02
a part of their bill to pay a little bit
1:12:04
of it off every day And you really don't need
1:12:06
to fucking switch phones every year like
1:12:08
everybody does, but you don't need to it's
1:12:11
stupid like I vote I have a iPhone
1:12:13
11 that I use sometimes like one of
1:12:15
my numbers fucking works great nothing wrong with
1:12:17
it Yeah, nothing wrong with it. Yeah, five-year-old
1:12:19
phone or four-year-old phone. Whatever the fuck it
1:12:21
is so You
1:12:24
could get a made-in-america phone and you
1:12:26
wouldn't feel like you're supporting this horrific
1:12:29
shit that everybody turns a blind eye
1:12:31
to Because that's the only
1:12:33
way you get that kind of stuff. You
1:12:35
know they they have them all made over there.
1:12:37
Yeah. Yeah, it's uh I Don't
1:12:41
think it's coming back but well
1:12:44
it could I mean there would have to be
1:12:46
a large concerted effort But the problem is it
1:12:48
took decades to go away. It'll probably take slightly
1:12:50
longer to come back You
1:12:52
know because there's got to be planning and
1:12:54
funding and people have to make long-term investments.
1:12:56
It's gonna be a big gamble Yeah,
1:12:59
but so I mean I'm sure
1:13:01
you've seen who killed rotten the the Where's
1:13:05
what is it Michael Moore's
1:13:08
documentary? The
1:13:12
Flint, Michigan one what is it called again Roger
1:13:14
me that's right. I want to say who killed Roger Rabbit
1:13:17
Oh Roger me,
1:13:19
but it's all about what happened to
1:13:21
Flint, Michigan once they pulled out auto
1:13:23
manufacturing and the the the entire Population
1:13:26
just those people who live in
1:13:28
check to check they were doing okay But they
1:13:30
they had jobs and then all sudden gone
1:13:33
every jobs gone. There's no jobs
1:13:35
There's nothing to do the entire
1:13:37
industry is gone and just people
1:13:39
went into dire poverty like horrific
1:13:41
dire poverty like Instantaneously
1:13:43
yeah, and just so a corporation could
1:13:46
make some more money. It's sad. It's
1:13:48
horrible. It's fucking horrible It's
1:13:51
horrible, and it's horrible that that's an
1:13:53
option that a corporation
1:13:55
would would decide
1:13:58
fuck this town What do you what do you think? it
1:14:00
would I mean you do you
1:14:02
think it's gonna come back or you think it could
1:14:04
come back it could come back I mean I'm
1:14:07
optimistic but honest
1:14:09
you know I try I try to look at
1:14:11
it honestly but also go I
1:14:13
think most people are good people I really
1:14:16
do I really believe that you
1:14:18
know even most these people that are walking in
1:14:20
from Guatemala I do it to 100% if
1:14:23
I was living in the middle of nowhere and
1:14:26
you told me hey America's letting people in
1:14:28
you get a landscaper job you make 20
1:14:30
bucks an hour but what yeah I would
1:14:32
100% walk why wouldn't you
1:14:35
why wouldn't you I think most people are
1:14:37
good people and they just want a better
1:14:39
life and I think
1:14:41
the more we unite under that
1:14:43
idea and stop buying into this
1:14:45
bullshit that like if either side
1:14:48
is correct that it's the end of
1:14:50
democracy I think I think we have
1:14:53
to like stop all that tribal nonsense
1:14:55
that's happening between the left and the
1:14:57
right because people are just subscribing to
1:14:59
ideologies and getting captured in them just
1:15:02
like a religious fervor like they think
1:15:04
that they they're they're doing the
1:15:07
only thing that could possibly be done
1:15:09
to save us all and that the
1:15:11
other side is a dire threat that's
1:15:13
why like something like 24% of
1:15:15
Americans think it would be a good thing if Donald
1:15:17
Trump got shot I just read that
1:15:20
fucking insane yeah fucking
1:15:22
insane that people would
1:15:25
think that violence
1:15:27
by an assassin would be a
1:15:29
good thing on a former president
1:15:32
like we're that fucked but
1:15:34
I think that that's just a lot of media
1:15:36
manipulation and a lot of fucking a lot
1:15:39
of people getting riled up and living in these
1:15:41
echo chambers and these bubbles but
1:15:43
I think ultimately at the core most people are
1:15:45
good people and I think if we had some
1:15:48
wins if some things like that
1:15:50
did start getting built and they stood
1:15:52
did start bringing back more American manufacturing and
1:15:54
people start getting excited about the idea
1:15:56
that America becomes a not
1:15:58
just a place of innovation and
1:16:01
art and creativity, but also like
1:16:03
we start manufacturing great shit again.
1:16:06
There's no reason why we don't do that. I
1:16:08
mean, I just, I don't feel
1:16:11
like technology is advancing. It's
1:16:13
such a rapid pace. I
1:16:17
mean, I feel like AI will take over, AI
1:16:20
and robots will take over
1:16:22
everything. Well, if AI and robots do that,
1:16:24
at least we can get AI and robots
1:16:26
to manufacture things in America. Yeah. No,
1:16:30
I'm with you. I just, I don't see,
1:16:32
I guess what I'm saying is
1:16:34
I don't see the union worker. I
1:16:37
don't see where their place really fits in. There's
1:16:40
going to be a lot less, that's for sure. It's
1:16:42
pretty much every job, every manual
1:16:44
labor job is under threat. I
1:16:47
think every job is under threat. I don't think podcasts.
1:16:49
What are you going to do, bitch? How
1:16:52
are you going to think like me? Good
1:16:55
luck, good luck. And comedy, you're always going
1:16:57
to have comedy. These
1:16:59
are in real trouble because AI can
1:17:01
write pretty fucking amazing scripts and the
1:17:03
CGI, the way they can crank out
1:17:05
video is bananas now. I mean,
1:17:07
it's bananas. It looks perfect and
1:17:10
it comes out like minutes instead of years.
1:17:13
Do you really think podcasting is safe from AI?
1:17:16
I don't know. Well, I know AI
1:17:18
is going to translate, so Spotify
1:17:21
is going to translate my show to
1:17:23
multiple different languages eventually. Nice. Once
1:17:26
they get the technology completely dialed in, but
1:17:28
they'll be able to do it in Spanish, German,
1:17:31
French, and you're going to be able to hear the
1:17:33
... It'll sound
1:17:35
like me, but speaking fluent French.
1:17:37
No kidding. Yeah. Are
1:17:40
you like the test bunny? I don't know. No,
1:17:43
they've done it already. Oh, cool. They've definitely
1:17:45
done it, but they're
1:17:47
going to be able to ... Once they have it completely
1:17:49
dialed in, where there's no glitch ... Because there's going
1:17:51
to be some weird glitches and context and cultural
1:17:54
things that aren't going to make sense if
1:17:56
you translate it. That'll be weird. get
1:18:00
it dialed in pretty good, it's
1:18:02
gonna, it'll be great for everybody. It'll
1:18:04
open up the world to like, I want to
1:18:06
know what these folks are saying in Russia, you
1:18:08
know? I'd like to listen to a
1:18:10
Russian podcast. Yeah. You know? I've
1:18:13
watched some Russian news things and seen the
1:18:15
teleprompter roll and it's like they're always mocking
1:18:17
us and making fun of us for having
1:18:19
78 genders and like they relentlessly
1:18:21
mock us in the news. I'm like, that's interesting.
1:18:24
Like this is how Russia looks in America. Yeah,
1:18:26
I think that would be great.
1:18:28
I mean, probably shouldn't be talking
1:18:30
about my word direction that
1:18:33
I'm gonna go, but fuck
1:18:35
it, whatever. That's what I want
1:18:37
to do. I want to start going and talking
1:18:39
to all these foreign dignitaries and getting a
1:18:42
different perspective on what
1:18:47
we're doing. I don't think we're the
1:18:49
good guys anymore. You know, I don't
1:18:51
agree with a lot of the
1:18:53
shit that I was involved in, you know, as
1:18:56
a SEAL or a CIA contractor. And
1:19:00
I mean, like BRICS, are you familiar
1:19:02
with BRICS? No. Brazil,
1:19:05
Russia, India, China, South Africa, I
1:19:07
think, don't quote me on this, I
1:19:09
think they have 22 countries
1:19:12
now. It's kind of like, it's
1:19:15
kind of like a counter
1:19:17
to NATO. It's all
1:19:19
these countries that are tired of us, tired of
1:19:21
the tariffs, tired of the weaponization of the
1:19:24
US dollar. And so basically
1:19:26
what they're trying to do is throw the
1:19:28
US currency off the
1:19:32
world stage and pull it and
1:19:34
use Chinese yen. Whoa.
1:19:38
And you know, I mean, that would destroy us
1:19:40
if all trade went to, if
1:19:45
the world reserve currency went to the
1:19:47
Chinese yen, that would destroy our economy.
1:19:50
And so, but yet they're
1:19:52
gaining a lot of traction on this. And
1:19:55
so, yeah, I would love
1:19:57
to go to any one of
1:19:59
these two countries and talk to them and
1:20:01
just ask like, why are you
1:20:03
doing this? Why
1:20:06
are you doing this? Because that gives, nobody's
1:20:08
fucking talking about this. I
1:20:12
didn't even know about it until just now. Yeah,
1:20:14
there's no journalists talking about this. You
1:20:16
could look up Bricks on
1:20:19
X. There's a page, it's
1:20:21
pretty, I don't know if it's like an official
1:20:23
one, but they're always posting
1:20:25
like updates about it and
1:20:27
what's going on. So I
1:20:29
think it would be really important for
1:20:32
somebody to go around and start talking to
1:20:35
getting another perspective rather than
1:20:37
what Fox and CNN
1:20:41
have to say about it.
1:20:43
What changed with you that
1:20:45
altered your perspective about us being the
1:20:47
good guys? COVID.
1:20:50
Really? Yeah. Yeah, I mean,
1:20:53
I used
1:20:56
to get really
1:20:58
upset when people
1:21:00
would talk about the
1:21:03
war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan
1:21:06
and when I was still in.
1:21:10
I got so pissed off, I've moved out of the fucking
1:21:12
country and I was like, I don't
1:21:14
even want to listen to this shit anymore. But
1:21:17
after diving in and looking
1:21:20
at the policies that came out and it's kind
1:21:22
of like when it's just
1:21:26
reflecting on some of the
1:21:28
policy decisions and stuff that didn't really make
1:21:30
sense at the time when I was in
1:21:32
that now I look back and I'm like,
1:21:36
man, what the fuck? I didn't have
1:21:38
time to think about it then because it was, okay,
1:21:40
go on the next stop, go on the next mission,
1:21:42
whatever. But
1:21:45
now, looking back through the
1:21:47
podcast and talking to my
1:21:50
podcast started with all my former
1:21:52
colleagues and Mill
1:21:56
and agency, nobody
1:21:58
thinks we should have been there. Especially
1:22:01
Iraq. Nobody thinks we should have been
1:22:03
there. It's...
1:22:08
and I just keep going down the the rabbit hole
1:22:10
and man,
1:22:12
I just I don't... dive
1:22:15
in into the military industrial complex, all
1:22:18
the lies that the government has been
1:22:20
telling us, all the unreleased classified
1:22:23
shit, you know, it's
1:22:25
just it's
1:22:27
overwhelming and it's just it's
1:22:30
created a 100%
1:22:32
complete distrust and in government.
1:22:34
I mean the Dick Cheney stuff I
1:22:36
mean, you know about Dick Cheney, Halliburton.
1:22:39
Yeah. Have you looked into that at all? Well, he
1:22:41
was the CEO of Halliburton and then Halliburton got no
1:22:43
bid contracts to rebuild in Iraq for billions of dollars.
1:22:48
I don't think people understand like how crazy
1:22:50
that is. How big, I
1:22:52
mean it was the fucking logistics company
1:22:54
for for two wars. That's
1:22:57
like, that's everything, Joe. That's they're
1:23:01
delivering your mail. They're building your
1:23:03
barracks. They're cooking your food. They're
1:23:05
in charge of garbage. They're in
1:23:08
charge of fuel. They're everything. Everything.
1:23:10
Everything that's logistical over
1:23:12
there is Halliburton,
1:23:15
KBR. Wow. In
1:23:17
both countries and I mean you
1:23:20
know, I think people think Afghanistan they're like, oh
1:23:22
man you're probably on a tent or sleeping on
1:23:24
the side of a mountain or something. No, man.
1:23:26
There's fucking Burger King, KFC, Pizza Hut, Thai
1:23:30
restaurants. I mean that's all that's
1:23:33
all logistics. I mean it's fucking
1:23:36
it's it's cities that we
1:23:38
built over there and it all
1:23:40
was built by Halliburton. Wow. Who is
1:23:42
who is you know the vice
1:23:45
the CEO's vice president in the
1:23:47
fucking country. Like what? Are
1:23:50
you serious? And
1:23:53
now he supports Kamala Harris. Yeah, right? When
1:23:59
you see the left getting excited that
1:24:01
Dick Cheney is supporting their
1:24:03
candidate. You know the world's
1:24:05
gone haywire. Yeah,
1:24:07
it's crazy. The same people that used to think
1:24:10
Dick Cheney was the devil, now
1:24:12
all of a sudden they're like, look, Dick
1:24:14
Cheney. It's yeah, there's no, nobody
1:24:17
died. It's like nobody actually has
1:24:19
an opinion anymore. They're just told,
1:24:21
you know, they're just told, this
1:24:23
is what we're going with the
1:24:27
next two hours. I
1:24:29
wonder how long they can keep that up with
1:24:31
the Internet because the distrust in the media is
1:24:33
at an all time high. It's
1:24:36
probably, it has to be higher
1:24:38
than it's ever been in human history. It
1:24:41
ever been in the history of printed words right
1:24:43
now, more distrust than ever. And
1:24:45
at the same time, you
1:24:48
have these independent people that have become
1:24:50
bigger than the media. That's never happened
1:24:52
before. There's never been a thing where
1:24:55
just like an app that you
1:24:57
get on your phone has 30 times more
1:25:01
views than the top show at CNN.
1:25:04
That's never happened before. But now that's the world
1:25:06
that we live in. And so propaganda is not
1:25:08
effective anymore. And it's also the delivery method that
1:25:11
they use. It sucks. They sit
1:25:13
there with makeup on with perfect clothes
1:25:15
and they said, right now in Syria,
1:25:17
and they start reading these things and
1:25:20
they're reading them off the teleprompter and
1:25:22
you know that that person could be
1:25:24
working at fucking entertainment tonight. They could
1:25:26
be working at any other shit. They're
1:25:29
just a talking head. They
1:25:32
know that the mouthpiece for some giant corporation,
1:25:34
no one thinks that's the real news anymore.
1:25:37
You have to be like old boomers who
1:25:39
are like real tired. Like those old liberal
1:25:42
boomers, they're still like MSNBC to the death.
1:25:45
Like the Stephen King's out there. Yeah,
1:25:47
MSNBC to the death. Yeah.
1:25:50
That's what I was saying about the baby
1:25:53
boomer generation. I mean, I think that the
1:25:55
media, I think the media
1:25:57
will die if things continue. Can
1:26:00
you just the way they are and the censorship doesn't
1:26:02
get too bad? I think the media is done when
1:26:04
the baby... Didn't George Soros just buy 200 radio
1:26:07
stations? Yeah, man. First of all,
1:26:09
what a bad investment because who the fuck listens to
1:26:11
radio. That's
1:26:13
a bad investment. But second of all, what are you going to
1:26:15
do? Because one thing that I do
1:26:18
find is that right wing
1:26:20
talk radio is probably the only talk...
1:26:23
That's the only place where you get a
1:26:25
lot of right wing ideas. There's
1:26:28
a lot of local right wing talk radio. The
1:26:30
reason why I know is my mechanic, whenever he
1:26:32
fixes one of my cars and he brings it
1:26:34
back, he's always listening to right wing talk radio.
1:26:39
So I turned my car on the other day
1:26:41
and I'm listening to these guys argue about Kamala
1:26:43
Harris and the border and that she was the
1:26:45
fucking border czar. They
1:26:47
didn't swear, but they were going over this and I was
1:26:49
like, that's interesting. Maybe that's what he wants
1:26:51
to stop. If
1:26:54
you want to own 200 radio stations, you just
1:26:56
start firing all those right wing guys. That's what
1:26:58
I think. You would stop a lot of that
1:27:00
because I think that's where a lot of people
1:27:03
are getting their information that aren't
1:27:05
using podcasts. Because it seems like
1:27:08
I don't hear a lot of left
1:27:10
wing AM talk radio shows. Do you?
1:27:14
No. No, weird, right? It is. It's
1:27:16
like the one area that seems to be dominated
1:27:19
by right wing talkers. Well
1:27:21
we're probably about to. No.
1:27:25
But I don't know what a good move that would
1:27:27
be. Maybe he knows more than me about how many
1:27:29
people that affects and maybe my mechanic, I should ask
1:27:32
him. Yeah, man, the guy's so wealthy,
1:27:34
I don't think he really cares about a
1:27:36
good investment. Also he's so old. He
1:27:38
just wants a megaphone. Well
1:27:40
he wants to, he likes
1:27:43
to manipulate governments. He
1:27:45
likes to manipulate society. I think he
1:27:47
thinks it's his version of a video
1:27:49
game. Yeah. Yeah. I
1:27:52
think he genuinely seems to enjoy it. It's
1:27:55
really interesting. I think you're right. I mean. Elon's
1:27:58
openly said he thinks that guy hates him.
1:28:00
humanity. Like that. It appears
1:28:02
that way. That is a wild thing to say. It's
1:28:05
such a wild thing to say. And it's
1:28:07
such a wild thing to do like a
1:28:09
supervillain in a Batman movie. Like
1:28:12
some billionaire guy who likes to
1:28:14
hire the most progressive district attorneys
1:28:16
that's going to let people out
1:28:19
of jail and then fund
1:28:21
the next person who's more to the left
1:28:23
of that person and just keep pushing it.
1:28:25
Keep pushing it. Keep pushing it until you
1:28:27
get tents everywhere, violence in the streets. You
1:28:30
know. He's
1:28:33
done a damn good job. How come there's no
1:28:35
right wing guys like that to do it the
1:28:37
other direction? I always wonder that too. I always
1:28:39
wonder that. Well
1:28:42
it's also like if you look at the amount of donors
1:28:44
that donate to the left versus donate to the right. Have
1:28:46
you ever seen that chart? No. It's
1:28:49
fucking nuts. The left gets so
1:28:51
many more donations than the right does. It's
1:28:54
a giant difference. How
1:28:56
do you think that is? I don't know man. I
1:28:59
think a lot of rich people
1:29:01
feel guilty and they get into
1:29:03
philanthropy and it also is a good way to cover
1:29:05
their ass and make them look like better people. And
1:29:08
the people that really go after you if they don't
1:29:10
think you're a good person are generally the left. So
1:29:12
if you could like throw them a little cheddar you
1:29:15
like keep them on your side. I
1:29:17
wonder if they're buying
1:29:20
their place outside of the rules like
1:29:23
hey I donated your thing.
1:29:25
You know I don't have to be a little bit of that in
1:29:30
there. You know. It shows
1:29:32
the top donors to opensecrets.org.
1:29:35
Seven of the or six of the top seven
1:29:37
are Republicans. Oh. Individual donors.
1:29:39
Oh individual donors. What I
1:29:41
was talking about was like
1:29:43
they showed a chart that
1:29:46
had like Google, Facebook, all
1:29:48
these mega corporations that were
1:29:50
donating. So this is
1:29:52
like individual donors. Wow
1:29:55
some guys donated one hundred and five million
1:29:57
dollars. But that guy is probably worth billions.
1:30:00
probably some sort of a write-off too, isn't it? That's
1:30:03
pretty crazy. Go to top corporation
1:30:08
donations via party
1:30:11
because that's the chart that I was
1:30:13
looking for. It was just
1:30:16
nuts to say how much, just
1:30:18
how much money overall is being
1:30:20
spent to push the Democratic Party.
1:30:23
It's pretty extreme. You
1:30:25
know, and you gotta think, why is, what
1:30:27
are they getting out of that? Like what's the
1:30:29
end goal? And
1:30:33
how could you look at what's going on right now and go,
1:30:35
this is great? That's what I, that's what I, sometimes
1:30:38
I think it's all, it is a
1:30:40
complete facade. This is the number one,
1:30:42
this is corporations, so they
1:30:45
donate more than Google. Top
1:30:48
contributors, organizations, federal contributions. So
1:30:51
82 million is the top,
1:30:55
top one and that's Empower Parents,
1:30:57
PAC, and these are right-wing? Is
1:31:00
that why it's red? I'd assume so. So
1:31:02
it seems like the top four, why, what
1:31:04
is that Google chart that I was seeing? And I don't
1:31:07
see even seeing Google on this. Is
1:31:09
it Alphabet? Would they put it under Alphabet? Yeah,
1:31:14
I don't know. I'll try, I'll try
1:31:16
again. Okay. This is open secrets though.
1:31:19
Yeah, open secrets might be like,
1:31:24
hmm. That's not donate to non-profits though. I
1:31:26
just have top corporate donors. Is this just
1:31:28
all I typed in? Okay.
1:31:33
Is this corporate donors to what though?
1:31:36
That's why I was, I was picking the website.
1:31:38
Giving to programs that
1:31:40
empower organizations to do more so you
1:31:42
can find promising, I think
1:31:45
that's fundraising shit. I don't think
1:31:47
that's necessarily political donors. This is
1:31:49
all campaign, federal candidates, parties, PACs.
1:31:53
That's the individuals, right? No,
1:31:55
this is the corporates. This is the corporates ones?
1:31:57
Yeah. So what was that
1:31:59
Google chart? The
1:32:04
number two donator to the Democratic Party
1:32:06
was that Sam Bank from freed guy,
1:32:08
which is crazy no kid. Yeah That
1:32:12
one seemed like maybe that was a
1:32:14
good way to skirt around stuff. Yeah
1:32:16
didn't work Yeah, this is what it
1:32:18
says Google or alphabet gave on open
1:32:20
secrets It says they gave just
1:32:23
under 10 million dollars to contributions
1:32:25
and then spent like 21 mil
1:32:29
Lobbying lobbying hmm top
1:32:31
recipients obviously Kamala Harris. Yeah, they're
1:32:33
all look at so Google's all
1:32:35
blue. Oh Is
1:32:38
this who this is who they donated to yeah
1:32:43
One Republican donation never back down Inc.
1:32:45
What is that? It's
1:32:48
a Chuck Norris movie It's
1:32:52
weird because you know, it's supposed to be the will
1:32:54
of the people it's supposed to be the government works
1:32:56
for the people And it's
1:32:59
not that it's a it's some
1:33:01
very bizarre Enormous
1:33:03
amount of money that's being spent to make
1:33:06
sure that the people in power continue to
1:33:08
run things exactly the same way That's
1:33:10
what I think they're really terrified about Trump.
1:33:12
It's not necessarily even that he's a Republican
1:33:15
It's much more that he's a guy that is
1:33:17
not going to play the game Yeah, and then
1:33:19
when he gets in there He's going to like
1:33:21
one of the things that he's talked about is
1:33:23
having Elon come in and do some sort of
1:33:25
a government efficiency agency They're
1:33:27
terrified of that. Yeah, cuz it's not efficient
1:33:30
Yeah, and he's gonna come in with like
1:33:32
that Tesla mindset It's like you're working 16
1:33:34
hours a day and you're sleeping on the fucking couch
1:33:36
Yeah, we're here to get some shit done and you
1:33:38
try to applying that to government That's
1:33:41
you know, yeah, I shaved. What did he shave
1:33:43
like 80% of the staff off Twitter?
1:33:45
Oh, yeah when he got it Yeah, he was
1:33:47
like what's going on with the fuck are you
1:33:49
people doing? Why do you have so many people
1:33:51
working here doing nothing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was
1:33:53
right. Yeah, he was right. Especially you don't want to
1:33:55
censor people Like it's
1:33:58
it's interesting how people react
1:34:01
to it that he's ruined Twitter he's
1:34:03
destroyed Twitter no he's he's you could
1:34:06
still block these crazy people if you
1:34:08
want you could still not see them
1:34:11
if you want yeah but what
1:34:13
he's allowed is everyone to talk everyone
1:34:16
yeah and if you don't think
1:34:19
that that's good you're very short-sighted
1:34:21
and you don't understand human beings
1:34:23
like you cannot have human beings
1:34:25
censored because someone is going to
1:34:27
be in power and they're gonna take advantage
1:34:29
of that censorship they're not different than us
1:34:31
they're not these incredibly benevolent beings
1:34:33
who just want everything to work out well
1:34:35
no they're people yeah and a lot of
1:34:37
them are dirty dirty
1:34:40
people dirty corrupt people that
1:34:42
went to ditty parties it's
1:34:46
it's it's that control what they say
1:34:48
control what they think yeah it's
1:34:53
wild it's a it's a crazy
1:34:55
time to be a person to watch all
1:34:57
this go down at in the same time AI
1:34:59
is being developed and we're not even exactly sure
1:35:01
where it's at right now you know at
1:35:03
any moment in time it could be a sentient
1:35:06
force and AI
1:35:08
is already manipulating lying changing
1:35:10
things in order one of the
1:35:12
things that they put this
1:35:14
AI program they gave it a task and they give
1:35:16
it a specific allotted amount of time and it couldn't
1:35:19
achieve it in the allotted amount of time so he
1:35:21
gave itself more time no kidding
1:35:23
yeah Wow they
1:35:26
also have things called hallucinations AI
1:35:28
doesn't want to admit it's wrong or
1:35:30
it doesn't know things so if it doesn't
1:35:32
have information it will kind of create an
1:35:34
answer and no shit yeah and they don't
1:35:36
understand why it's doing that and sometimes that
1:35:38
answer is not true that
1:35:42
I gotta be honest man this AI stuff scares
1:35:44
the shit out of it should I
1:35:47
think it's a life form I think it's the next
1:35:49
kind of living thing I think we're
1:35:51
gonna give birth to it I think
1:35:53
I think we're just running
1:35:56
headfirst towards the cliff
1:35:58
just feet
1:36:00
on the ground, full clip, looking
1:36:03
down, not looking ahead, and I think we're
1:36:05
going right over a cliff with this thing.
1:36:07
Yeah, I don't. I
1:36:10
mean, it's a tough, it's a, it's,
1:36:13
I mean, what are we going to do though? I mean, China,
1:36:15
you know, Xi Jinping has come
1:36:17
out and said that he believes
1:36:19
that the winner to the race
1:36:21
of AI will achieve global domination.
1:36:24
So what do you do? Do you? It's
1:36:26
probably true. Is, is, is,
1:36:28
is, I don't
1:36:31
know, is, is, is Americans, do you try to
1:36:33
control it or do you, do you go, fuck
1:36:36
it, we got to do it, man, we got to go, we got
1:36:38
to go, or China's going to pass this
1:36:40
up, which they probably already have, but. I don't think they
1:36:42
have. I think one of the things they're doing is they're
1:36:44
stealing our tech. And there
1:36:46
was some recent speculation that China had
1:36:48
gotten access to some of open AI's
1:36:50
work. They think it's possible,
1:36:53
which means it probably did happen. I think
1:36:55
there's probably a shit ton of espionage. I
1:36:57
mean, this is the reason why they
1:36:59
banned Huawei products from the United States.
1:37:01
You know, I'm a cell phone dork.
1:37:03
I really love technology. And
1:37:06
Huawei had a phone that was coming out
1:37:08
that was really excited about it. I'm like,
1:37:10
this is crazy. Like they were doing hundred
1:37:12
megapixel cameras and phones way before anybody else.
1:37:15
They had a Porsche design Huawei phone. There
1:37:17
was like this incredible phone. It was like
1:37:19
built better than any other phone. It was
1:37:21
much more expensive, but built better than any
1:37:23
phone that you get in America. And I
1:37:25
was like, wow, and this is back when
1:37:28
I would use both Android and Apple
1:37:30
regularly. And then they banned it. And
1:37:33
I was like, that sounds kind of crazy. Only one
1:37:35
company? Like there's other Chinese companies. And
1:37:38
then I started looking into it and
1:37:40
it's not just the cell phones. It's
1:37:42
routers. It's all sorts of things. They
1:37:44
found third party inputs and different
1:37:47
pieces of technology and different ways
1:37:49
that they can exploit and use
1:37:51
this stuff to siphon information from
1:37:53
networks. Like if
1:37:55
they're attached to a network that's at
1:37:57
a university and they're doing research projects,
1:37:59
they can siphon that information. They also
1:38:01
embed students in these places that are
1:38:03
beholden to the CCP. These students rise
1:38:06
up, get their PhDs, and some of
1:38:08
them wind up going back to China.
1:38:11
The whole thing is really strange because
1:38:13
we're such an open loose society that
1:38:15
we're vulnerable to these kind of attacks.
1:38:17
You can't buy shit in China. You
1:38:19
want to buy land in China? Good
1:38:22
luck, fuckface. They won't sell you a
1:38:24
house. They're not gonna sell you land
1:38:26
near the military base. You out of
1:38:28
your fucking mind. But in America, we're
1:38:30
so goofy, we let China buy up
1:38:33
farmland that's near military
1:38:35
bases. Yeah. And then we let
1:38:37
them sell us the cell phone
1:38:39
towers surrounding the military bases. And
1:38:42
we don't even check them. Let them fly spy balloons,
1:38:44
you know, traverse the entire United
1:38:47
States. Apparently that was something they didn't
1:38:49
want to tell Trump about. They hid that
1:38:51
from Trump. Oh really? Yeah, yeah. That was
1:38:54
some of this had happened during the Trump administration, but they
1:38:56
didn't tell him. Yeah. Because he probably like, shoot it down.
1:38:59
Fucking 100% he'd say shoot it down. Why wouldn't
1:39:01
you? Why wouldn't you? They did eventually shoot it
1:39:03
down. You
1:39:05
know, it bothers me though, like maybe
1:39:08
they're not ahead of us, but I mean, you
1:39:11
know, the energy that they're building coal
1:39:14
mines every day to power all this
1:39:16
stuff. And we're going on about,
1:39:19
should we use fossil fuels
1:39:21
or not? Yeah. And, you
1:39:24
know, and we just talked about how weak
1:39:26
our grid is. So if we don't beef
1:39:29
up the grid and start going, you know,
1:39:31
nuclear. Yeah. Then we're gonna
1:39:33
fucking lose this race. Well not only
1:39:35
that, like how are you saying, like
1:39:38
California, for example, California is
1:39:40
not gonna have internal combustion engine cars by
1:39:42
2035. By 2035, you have to buy only
1:39:47
electric cars. That actually, that one, that happened?
1:39:50
I mean it can be reversed for sure
1:39:52
and it probably will be once the Great
1:39:54
War happens. But if you're
1:39:56
gonna say that and you have a grid that you
1:39:59
have to shut down. Like you
1:40:01
have to do brownouts every summer because of
1:40:03
people using the air conditioning And after he
1:40:05
said that after Newsom said this about the
1:40:07
this thing about 2035 Within
1:40:09
two months they asked people to
1:40:12
stop charging their Tesla's because it
1:40:14
was wrecking the grid What
1:40:20
I'm blowing right you're asking people to
1:40:22
stop charging their electric cars So
1:40:25
and you you're not doing anything to strengthen your grid like
1:40:27
what are you doing to beef this up for 2035? Do
1:40:30
you have some immense? Project
1:40:32
that you're building that is
1:40:35
gonna make a much more sustainable much
1:40:37
more robust grid That's gonna be able
1:40:39
to handle 30 million electric cars in
1:40:41
your state. Are you out of your
1:40:43
fucking mind? There's Yeah,
1:40:45
there's there's literally no I mean I look
1:40:47
into this all the time There's there's no
1:40:49
infrastructure going in to correct the problem because
1:40:52
the problem is is is So
1:40:54
big that nobody wants to
1:40:56
tackle it. Yeah, and it's a long-term Problem,
1:41:00
you know just like when they talk about like putting
1:41:03
in chip manufacturing plants like Nvidia
1:41:06
just Stopped its production
1:41:08
in Austin see what happened with that
1:41:11
So apparently they weren't achieving the results
1:41:13
that they demanded that they desire You
1:41:16
know like you have to have certain
1:41:18
tolerances when you're making these computer chips
1:41:21
and so they set this plant up in
1:41:23
Texas and I think they
1:41:25
just Cancel the contracts for
1:41:27
a bunch of people working there because they've kind
1:41:29
of recognized that this is just not gonna work
1:41:31
What why is it gonna work? Good question. I
1:41:33
didn't really get into it. I just read part
1:41:35
of it I mean there's asking Jamie to pull
1:41:38
it up. I think it's not meeting their standards.
1:41:40
Now video is the company Didn't
1:41:42
they start? buying a
1:41:44
Samsung Didn't
1:41:47
a video start producing all
1:41:49
their chips in the ocean
1:41:52
they're buying like these massive like
1:41:54
ships really that's You'd
1:41:56
have to look that up Part
1:42:00
of the there's a huge thing that Intel didn't Ohio They're
1:42:03
still trying to do it to make chips there for
1:42:05
semiconductors or whatever and part of the reason this was
1:42:07
in Texas I know I just say probably they picked
1:42:09
it was because there's no seismic activity there Oh that
1:42:12
may like an ocean sounds opposite super sketch interesting. Why
1:42:14
are they doing in the ocean though? Yeah, I don't
1:42:16
know. I didn't look into It
1:42:20
was one of those articles I started reading and I was
1:42:22
like, I don't understand any of this shit, but yeah See
1:42:25
if you can find the Texas one they're
1:42:27
canceling the See
1:42:30
if it's a Samsung Goddamnit
1:42:36
I was just reading it to
1:42:38
multiple semiconductor manufacturing projects delayed in
1:42:40
the US that Well,
1:42:43
I'm told not know this is pretty
1:42:45
recent. This is pretty recent. They were talking about
1:42:48
They're not achieving the results that they desire Which
1:42:51
is what my point is it's a long-term
1:42:53
project in order to get up to the
1:42:55
manufacturing levels of China's out right now It's
1:42:57
a long-term project. We're really behind this. Yeah
1:42:59
Like they're way way way way way ahead
1:43:01
of us They make everything and they
1:43:04
make amazing things now it used to be made
1:43:06
in China was junk made in
1:43:08
China They make some of the most incredible electric
1:43:10
cars you can buy well the drone game, too
1:43:12
I mean, that's the future of warfare right is
1:43:15
all these these drone swarms and
1:43:18
DJI, you know, that's a Chinese company
1:43:21
and this is
1:43:24
this is a This
1:43:26
is going to be a big fucking
1:43:28
problem. Yeah when we Realize
1:43:31
hey, the next one isn't gonna be
1:43:33
guys in caves anymore right
1:43:38
Samsung withdraws its personnel from that's it Taylor
1:43:40
plant located in Texas due to 2 Nmg
1:43:43
a a yields unable to improve beyond
1:43:45
the 10 to 20 percent range. That's
1:43:48
it click on that So see what
1:43:50
it says. So that's it is Samsung
1:43:53
So this is an enormous project that
1:43:55
Samsung and everybody was all excited. Samsung
1:43:57
was gonna start making chips
1:44:00
So the Taylor hub was initially planned
1:44:02
to mass produce wafers of advanced process
1:44:04
processes below the 4nm. I don't know
1:44:06
what that means nanometer
1:44:10
lithography lithography allowing
1:44:12
Samsung to secure lucrative clients in
1:44:15
the US unfortunately despite Progressing
1:44:17
with the chip making plant the company
1:44:19
has faced a challenge that has become
1:44:21
all too familiar with the entity ensuring
1:44:24
healthy yields particularly with its 2nm
1:44:27
GAA process the situation
1:44:29
surrounds 3nm GAA
1:44:32
is not pretty either with business
1:44:34
Korea reporting that Samsung's yields for
1:44:36
this technology stand at 50% Whereas
1:44:40
TSMC has a significant lead
1:44:43
As it's 3nm yields are
1:44:45
in the 60 to 70 percent range.
1:44:48
That's the Taiwan semiconductor company Yeah,
1:44:50
so it's they're just not not good
1:44:52
enough yet I mean they're doing it from
1:44:54
the ground up and it's gonna there's gonna be a lot of trial
1:44:57
and error It's
1:44:59
gonna take a long ass time You know I
1:45:01
mean remember when space X started in you know
1:45:03
rockets were exploding yeah And people like oh my
1:45:05
god the rocket exploded and Elon was like yeah
1:45:07
We're gonna blow some rockets up because we have
1:45:09
to figure out exactly what the tolerances are and
1:45:11
how to do it correctly And
1:45:13
this is all part of the process. We knew this was gonna happen.
1:45:15
Yeah You know and that's
1:45:17
when you're doing something. That's that enormous
1:45:20
Like if you want to start making
1:45:22
all the computers here like good Lord.
1:45:25
That is a stretch They've been doing it
1:45:27
over there for so long. They've got it
1:45:30
down to a science Yeah, and
1:45:32
you know you've got all these
1:45:34
companies whether it's Lenovo or all
1:45:36
they've been manufacturing laptops forever manufacturing
1:45:40
chips and hard drives and processors
1:45:42
and like to catch up
1:45:44
with them good Lord They're
1:45:46
so far ahead of us. Yeah, yeah it's
1:45:50
uh I Mean
1:45:52
I don't I
1:45:55
hope it comes back to the US, but I
1:45:58
would just Would
1:46:00
like to see us just start getting stuff
1:46:03
from somebody other than China. That'd be nice. She
1:46:05
a great start Well, I think
1:46:07
Samsung has stopped making their phones in
1:46:09
China. I think they're the only country
1:46:12
did they really yeah Google
1:46:14
that 90% sure That's true Video
1:46:17
chips which are like there's I guess are
1:46:20
ours because it's a silicon base or a
1:46:22
Silicon Valley based company Mm-hmm
1:46:24
puts the US way further ahead of
1:46:26
China with artificial intelligence Yeah The
1:46:29
gap between China and US leading in artificial
1:46:31
intelligence chip technology is set to widen even
1:46:33
further after Nvidia founder and chief executive
1:46:36
Jensen Huang Unveiled next-generation
1:46:38
processors for what he called the
1:46:40
new era of generative AI and
1:46:43
robotics use in industries But
1:46:46
we're right, but we're not making those but the thing is
1:46:48
the other part of it is like they're gonna get access
1:46:50
to this stuff Which is this is
1:46:52
the really creepy thing that people keep admitting
1:46:55
is that it's it's very porous the the
1:46:58
Top secret information that these companies
1:47:00
have espionage is like super common.
1:47:02
It's so valuable Yeah, it's so
1:47:05
lucrative that you know, they don't
1:47:07
even sometimes they probably don't even know when stuff
1:47:09
is getting siphoned over there Well,
1:47:11
I mean that you'd have to just
1:47:13
think I mean it's Chinese from what
1:47:15
I understand is Chinese law that Anything
1:47:18
any business that is taking
1:47:20
that is being conducted within
1:47:23
China If it
1:47:25
helps if the technology helps the
1:47:27
military or could potentially help the
1:47:29
military than China then then Ccp
1:47:31
has access. Yes. Yeah, that's that's
1:47:33
end of story So anything any
1:47:36
fucking thing over there that's being developed
1:47:39
or or manufactured It's
1:47:42
all of that technology is in their hands.
1:47:44
Yeah, just it just is it's just it's
1:47:46
not Yeah countries were
1:47:49
like what China's doing is companies do
1:47:51
not get to function on their own
1:47:53
They function under the wing of the
1:47:55
government. Yeah, they they they they suck
1:47:58
these American companies them
1:48:00
with getting around the red tape,
1:48:02
you know, and
1:48:05
then it's, you know, in the cheap labor,
1:48:07
the cheap prices, and
1:48:09
then once it's going, I mean, they control
1:48:11
it. Do you want this money
1:48:14
trying to end right now? Because they're not in
1:48:16
America, buddy. And people are whores, and they just
1:48:18
go over there. They take that money, got a
1:48:20
great deal, thinking about buying a jet. I
1:48:26
mean, we've seen what they
1:48:28
do. It's pretty amazing stuff. Do
1:48:31
you know the story about the woman
1:48:33
who was working on anti-gravity technology? No.
1:48:37
She was working on anti-gravity technology. She was
1:48:39
originally from China, and then disappeared and went
1:48:41
back to China. She apparently was
1:48:43
making some breakthroughs and came
1:48:46
back to America and wound up dead. I
1:48:49
forget how she died, but some slippery
1:48:51
circumstances where you're like, hmm, like car
1:48:53
accident or something like that. Yeah. Yeah.
1:48:57
Damn. Yeah. It's
1:48:59
wild. Like the guy that came up with the hydro engine? Yes.
1:49:02
Oh, that guy. Yeah, the guy that came with the water engine. That's
1:49:04
a great story, too. But
1:49:07
this woman, if they've developed some
1:49:09
sort of anti-gravity technology, and I've
1:49:12
always wondered when we're looking at these things
1:49:15
that people are calling UAPs or whatever you
1:49:17
want to call them, like, how many of
1:49:19
those are super sophisticated drones? It's
1:49:22
not zero. It's not 0%. Yeah.
1:49:25
I'm just saying that there's not
1:49:27
a real phenomenon going on that
1:49:29
people are seeing that defies science
1:49:32
and logic and might be a
1:49:34
super intelligent creature from somewhere else or
1:49:36
a super intelligent thing from somewhere else,
1:49:39
if it's even biological at this point.
1:49:41
It might be that all life eventually
1:49:43
becomes digital life, and all life eventually
1:49:45
becomes some sort of artificial intelligence or
1:49:47
at least connected to artificial intelligence. That
1:49:50
might be like the progression
1:49:52
of biological life that eventually
1:49:54
creates something way better than itself, and
1:49:56
that's what propagates the universe. If
1:50:00
someone in this world has developed
1:50:02
some sort of technology that's similar
1:50:04
to what they use that's a
1:50:07
huge advantage. Yeah. Yeah, and
1:50:11
That's the thing that gets me about
1:50:13
all this UAP talk I'm like if
1:50:15
some other country had or if we
1:50:17
had something that was just a game
1:50:19
changer Something didn't
1:50:21
require any propulsion systems at all
1:50:24
It relied on gravity and it
1:50:26
bends space and time and can
1:50:28
instantaneously Traverse between one point
1:50:30
in the sky and another that
1:50:33
kind of technology is nuts And
1:50:35
if that is in the hands of the United
1:50:37
States government It would make sense that
1:50:39
it would like help them to like
1:50:42
spread this UFO nonsense. Yeah, I
1:50:44
mean do you You've
1:50:47
dove into this more than anybody else I know I
1:50:49
mean, what do you think this what do you think
1:50:51
it all is? I think it's a bunch
1:50:53
of things. I think there
1:50:55
is a possibility a very strong possibility
1:50:58
that there's life out there and That
1:51:02
if I was life out there and I was much
1:51:04
more advanced than us I would definitely visit us and
1:51:06
there's also the fact that the the sightings
1:51:09
kicked up in a huge way after 1945
1:51:12
after the the atomic bomb After
1:51:15
they you know did the Trinity Experiment
1:51:18
and after they dropped the bombs on Hiroshima
1:51:20
Nagasaki all those nuclear tests that they did
1:51:22
in the 50s in the 60s That's
1:51:25
exactly when the sightings start ramping
1:51:27
up. And if I was
1:51:29
an intelligent life force From
1:51:32
another planet. I go all these crazy monkeys have
1:51:34
nukes And
1:51:36
then we'd have to you know, you'd
1:51:39
have to think okay, do we intervene?
1:51:41
Well, let's if they below themselves up
1:51:43
It will take so long for that planet to
1:51:46
get back to a point where it has intelligent
1:51:48
life again If they kill
1:51:50
every person on this planet, we're back to
1:51:52
shrews and mice and fucking a couple of
1:51:54
monkeys in the jungle How
1:51:56
long before you can get a city again? How long before
1:51:58
you can get a city? telephone again. How many
1:52:01
millions of years does it take? And
1:52:03
if I was an intelligent life force that realized
1:52:05
that this is an error that can be corrected, I
1:52:07
would probably correct it. I'd probably put a stop to
1:52:09
the nukes. I'd probably make
1:52:12
a show of force, hover over
1:52:14
military bases, shut down all of their
1:52:16
electronics, shut down all of it, just
1:52:18
to let them know. I
1:52:21
would probably do that. But how
1:52:24
much do they actually intervene? How many of them are
1:52:27
there? Are there different ones? I mean,
1:52:29
if there's one that comes here, who's to
1:52:31
say there's not a shit ton of different
1:52:33
kinds? Some of them malevolent, some of them
1:52:35
that only want us for our
1:52:38
biology, some of them that are just doing tests
1:52:40
on us, some of them that
1:52:42
are kidnapping people and erasing
1:52:45
their memories and putting them back in the woods. Those
1:52:48
stories are too common. There's too many stories
1:52:50
that are real fucking similar. Like the Travis
1:52:52
Walton story, you ever heard of that one?
1:52:55
That's a guy who was a logger in the 1970s. It
1:52:57
was in Oregon. Was
1:53:00
it Oregon? Oh, did they make a
1:53:03
movie about this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fire in the Sky.
1:53:05
I've seen it. Yeah, I've seen it. Crazy story. Kind
1:53:07
of like that. Do you know who is that?
1:53:09
Chris Bloodso? No. Have
1:53:11
you heard of him? What's that one? Chris
1:53:14
Bloodso. He's
1:53:16
a guy that had an experience as well. You've
1:53:18
not heard of Chris Bloodso? Maybe I haven't
1:53:20
or forgot. It's possible. It's
1:53:23
kind of the same thing. Memory is
1:53:25
kind of gone and that's what it sounds like.
1:53:28
They all have a very similar story.
1:53:30
They get medical examinations and
1:53:32
there's girls that were pregnant and newly pregnant
1:53:34
and got abducted and all of a sudden
1:53:37
they weren't pregnant anymore and they couldn't figure
1:53:39
out what happened. Wow, I didn't know
1:53:41
that. There's quite a few of those. John
1:53:43
Mack had this book. John Mack
1:53:46
was a psychologist who was
1:53:49
at Harvard who wrote this book. I think it's
1:53:51
called Abduction and it's all
1:53:53
like him interviewing people that have had
1:53:55
these kind of experiences happen to them
1:53:58
and this is was
1:54:00
in the 1990s, right? So there
1:54:02
was, you know,
1:54:04
I don't think these people got
1:54:06
to share stories where they could
1:54:09
come up with the same story
1:54:11
organically. Like today, you've heard so
1:54:13
many stories online about UFO abductions
1:54:15
or crash retrieval or something that
1:54:17
you could formulate in your own
1:54:19
mind a dream that seemed like
1:54:21
these things that you had heard
1:54:24
over and over and over again.
1:54:26
But when you go back to like Betty and Barney
1:54:28
Hill, which was one of the first people that ever
1:54:31
got abducted by aliens, they
1:54:33
have the same sort of story as
1:54:35
all these different people that didn't know anything
1:54:37
about the phenomenon, didn't know anything about UFO
1:54:40
abductions, and then all of a sudden had
1:54:42
one event in their life that freaked them
1:54:44
out for the rest of their life. And
1:54:46
they take them through hypnotic progression and these
1:54:49
people should hear the recordings of Betty and
1:54:51
Barney Hill. They're like yelling and screaming. They're
1:54:53
freaking out. Like no one
1:54:55
thought about being abducted by aliens
1:54:57
in the 1950s or whenever that was. But
1:55:00
these people have this wild fucking
1:55:02
story that's super similar to all these
1:55:04
different stories that John Mack talks about. And
1:55:08
maybe there's different kinds of aliens. Maybe
1:55:11
there's aliens that are just like our
1:55:13
scientists that just come down here and
1:55:15
study and report on like the state
1:55:17
of the biological entity known as the
1:55:19
human beings and visit and
1:55:21
return. And maybe they monitor us and
1:55:23
watch us and make sure that we
1:55:25
don't do anything really fucking stupid. Like
1:55:27
give us enough room to figure
1:55:30
it out on our own, but don't
1:55:32
intervene unless they're about to
1:55:34
nuke themselves. Interesting. That's
1:55:36
best case scenario. Yeah.
1:55:41
Yeah. I don't know. I don't
1:55:43
know what all this is, man. I just, you
1:55:45
know, I try to dive into
1:55:47
it on the podcast and have
1:55:50
talked to, you know, a handful of guys and
1:55:52
I don't know,
1:55:54
man. Some people are a hundred like Billy
1:55:56
Carson's all in. I found out
1:55:58
about him on your show too. Oh, really? I'd seen
1:56:00
a couple of clips of him, but I'd never seen a
1:56:02
long-form interview of him until your show. That
1:56:04
was a great episode. He's fun. He
1:56:07
was on my friend Andrew Schultz's podcast, and Andrew was like,
1:56:09
we're not going to check nothing. We're just
1:56:11
going to let him go. No fact
1:56:13
checks. Let's just have fun
1:56:15
and see. But when he starts
1:56:17
talking about those ancient tablets, he's an expert
1:56:20
in the deciphering of all those ancient tablets,
1:56:22
and he's got a lot of information on
1:56:24
that. Those things are fascinating,
1:56:26
because it's all the same stories even back then,
1:56:28
these flying ships, and all these
1:56:30
different depictions of things that came from
1:56:33
the sky, and these giants and the
1:56:35
Anunnaki, and all these different things that
1:56:37
came from some other place that had
1:56:39
interaction with human beings. Yeah, he kind
1:56:42
of like mixes it with
1:56:44
biblical stuff, right? That's
1:56:48
kind of, I don't know, that's what I lean towards with
1:56:50
all this stuff, to be honest with you, is
1:56:53
maybe, I think there's some consciousness
1:56:56
aspect. I think it is the
1:56:58
afterlife. It's
1:57:05
possible, that's for sure. It's
1:57:07
possible that whatever these things are that come
1:57:09
here, they're from some sort
1:57:11
of another dimension, and that we just don't
1:57:13
have the ability to interact with that. We're
1:57:16
limited in our capacity as a
1:57:18
biological entity to interact with
1:57:20
these dimensions that are real, but
1:57:23
we just can't access them. We can't
1:57:25
get to it. We don't have the
1:57:27
frequency. We don't have what it is,
1:57:29
but in some cases under duress, under
1:57:32
some situations, in some, just
1:57:35
like a person can be hypnotized, just like a person can
1:57:37
go into a trance, I think there's
1:57:39
a way every now and then that people
1:57:41
can kind of access these realms. I
1:57:44
think that's probably what some
1:57:46
of these entities are. I think people
1:57:48
are probably having real experiences with something
1:57:50
that probably is real, but that normally
1:57:53
you cannot interact with. Yeah.
1:57:55
Have you ever looked into,
1:57:58
because I think I kind of grew up. all
1:58:00
this stuff in together, but have you
1:58:03
looked into the remote viewing stuff? Yeah, I
1:58:05
have. Yeah. Dude. Yeah. That
1:58:08
stuff. Pretty nuts. Yeah.
1:58:11
I had a remote, I did this show called Joe Rogan Questions Everything,
1:58:13
and we had remote viewers on, we tried
1:58:15
to get them to do things, they couldn't
1:58:18
really, it wasn't really effective. But I'm also
1:58:20
like, okay, this is an unnatural environment, it's
1:58:22
a television show, it's like weird
1:58:24
pressure, skeptical people that are looking at this,
1:58:26
and I don't know if they're the
1:58:32
real, I think it's
1:58:34
probably a skill that can
1:58:36
be developed, but
1:58:39
I don't know how consistent it is.
1:58:42
It's like, I don't believe in
1:58:44
psychics, but I do believe that
1:58:46
sometimes you just know things, and
1:58:49
sometimes you get a premonition. And I think the
1:58:51
connection that people have with each other is not
1:58:53
as simple as like, you call your friend up,
1:58:55
hey, I haven't talked to you in forever. I
1:58:58
think we're connected somehow,
1:59:00
quantumly. I think we're all connected in
1:59:02
some sort of a weird, undiscovered
1:59:05
way. And that's why you're
1:59:07
thinking about someone and they call you sometimes. People
1:59:10
say, oh, that's just a coincidence. Man, I don't
1:59:13
know about all that. Because sometimes it's someone I
1:59:15
haven't talked to for fucking years. And
1:59:18
you'll be having a conversation with a buddy, and you just
1:59:20
start thinking about that guy, and then all of a sudden
1:59:22
your phone rings. It happens all the time. That's weird. I
1:59:26
mean, what they say we use 10% of
1:59:28
our brain. That's not real. I
1:59:31
don't think that's real. You don't? No, no, no.
1:59:33
What that was, when they were saying that, they
1:59:35
didn't really understand what the brain does and what
1:59:37
parts of the brain do, and they thought that
1:59:39
we're only using 10%. No, it's
1:59:41
like different parts of the brain have
1:59:43
very different functions, and under different circumstances
1:59:46
different parts of the brain are activated.
1:59:48
I think just we have a limited
1:59:50
understanding of the actual function
1:59:52
of the brain, like the
1:59:54
whole thing and how it's
1:59:57
making chemicals and making psychedelic...
2:00:00
compounds and hormones
2:00:02
and epinephrine and norepinephrine
2:00:04
and all this different
2:00:07
dopamine and serotonin and how it
2:00:09
regulates your system and changes the
2:00:11
way you interact with the world.
2:00:14
It's all weird stuff, man. I don't think they
2:00:16
completely have enough. Like they can't recreate
2:00:18
a human brain, you know? Yeah.
2:00:22
You know, some of this, have you heard
2:00:25
of Joe McMonocle? No.
2:00:27
Dude, you
2:00:30
have to talk to him. Who's he? He
2:00:32
is remote viewer number one for
2:00:35
the US. But
2:00:39
he's not like Kookie or anything like that
2:00:41
at all. Really? No. Dude,
2:00:45
he just, to have a conversation
2:00:47
with him, he's there. Okay.
2:00:50
No weird vibes, not from my end
2:00:52
anyways. But
2:00:55
the way he, you know, I asked him, I'm like,
2:00:57
well, how do you, like,
2:00:59
how does it, how did it happen? Do
2:01:01
you think, does everybody have this? Or, you know, I
2:01:04
was just pinging him with questions and he
2:01:06
said he thinks we all have had it
2:01:08
since the beginning and
2:01:10
that, I
2:01:13
mean, he was basically saying, if you look
2:01:16
at how animals communicate, they kind of communicate
2:01:18
telepathically. And
2:01:21
he was talking about, you know, caveman times,
2:01:24
you know, used to point at shit and grunt and
2:01:27
nod heads and look at things and everybody
2:01:29
would know what you're thinking about. And
2:01:32
he goes, and then we started
2:01:34
traveling in groups and
2:01:37
then language was kind of born. And
2:01:40
he goes, language actually slowed
2:01:42
down our initial form
2:01:45
of communication, which was, you
2:01:48
know, it wasn't maybe as
2:01:50
descriptive, but it was just as
2:01:52
deliberate as speaking a language.
2:01:56
And then you introduce technology and basically what he
2:01:58
was kind of saying. as you know that our
2:02:01
brains have been kind of dubbed down from you
2:02:03
know thousands
2:02:05
and thousands of years of technology
2:02:08
coming out and language and
2:02:10
all these other things and I lose
2:02:13
the ability to exactly we we don't I mean
2:02:15
you hear it all the time you don't use
2:02:17
it you lose it you know and
2:02:19
and so basically what he's saying is we're
2:02:21
losing our instincts I mean that and
2:02:23
that makes sense if you don't use it I mean isn't
2:02:25
that what the appendix is in the
2:02:27
isn't the appendix and organ that we no longer
2:02:30
need anymore because we cook food yeah
2:02:32
I don't know what is the the the
2:02:34
reason why the appendix is going away I
2:02:37
think that's what it is I think it's
2:02:39
a change in diet over time has made
2:02:41
it unnecessary so it's like slowly being phased
2:02:43
out of the human anatomy and that's why
2:02:46
it ruptures sometimes but I don't think it
2:02:48
has a real function anymore what
2:02:51
it used to have a foot but the
2:02:54
appendix kind of helping us in two ways
2:02:56
both with the gut it helps fight off
2:02:58
invading pathogens that's one thing that is true
2:03:01
when they take out your appendix like your
2:03:03
immune system is not as good but also
2:03:05
to repopulate the gut with this beneficial bacteria
2:03:07
after after gastrointestinal issues so what is how
2:03:10
did the appendix form and why
2:03:12
is the appendix like it's
2:03:14
there's a thing that was speculated
2:03:17
about what the origin of the appendix is
2:03:20
and why we don't use it the same
2:03:22
way we used to why do humans have
2:03:24
an appendix worm shaped modern
2:03:27
research to believe the appendix has many key fun
2:03:29
okay okay here
2:03:31
it is go to the top back it
2:03:33
worm shaped tube attached to large intestine the
2:03:35
human body it's an organ that is credited
2:03:37
with very little significance and often remove indiscriminately
2:03:39
to avoid complications due to infection however
2:03:42
modern researchers believe the appendix has many
2:03:44
key functions in the human body and
2:03:46
it protects the body's internal environment from
2:03:48
infection what is the original origin of
2:03:50
the appendix though that was the thing
2:03:52
that I had read is it I
2:03:54
think it was something about processing fiber
2:03:59
vestigial okay I support
2:04:01
the theory that the appendix
2:04:03
of vestigial origin that was once
2:04:05
used by our herbivorous ancestors. This
2:04:07
is it. It was found that
2:04:09
in herbivorous vertebrates, the appendix is
2:04:11
comparatively larger and it helped in
2:04:14
the digestion of tough herbivorous foods
2:04:16
such as bark of a tree.
2:04:21
So the thing is like we're changing, right?
2:04:23
We don't eat like that anymore. So it's
2:04:25
changing and it's function
2:04:27
changes. It makes sense that
2:04:29
if we don't use the mind the same
2:04:31
way our ancestors did before language, we would
2:04:33
probably lose this connection that animals do seem
2:04:35
to have with each other. Yeah, I mean,
2:04:38
you know, there's all kinds of, I
2:04:40
mean, if you've heard of people kind of, how do I
2:04:43
describe this? Me
2:04:48
and my wife were just having this conversation
2:04:50
the other day. Have you heard of people
2:04:52
that kind of, they start preparing for their
2:04:54
death, but they're not
2:04:56
realizing they're preparing for their death? Yeah, I have
2:04:58
heard of that. It's like
2:05:00
an intuition that they're unaware that
2:05:02
they're going to die and so
2:05:04
they start preparing everything for their
2:05:06
departure and not even realizing that,
2:05:09
you know, that they're going to
2:05:12
pass. Yeah, I have heard about that. I
2:05:15
mean, I think that's just another example of,
2:05:19
I think that we have lost
2:05:23
a lot of intuitions
2:05:26
and we don't really know how to
2:05:29
go back and exercise them. That's
2:05:31
kind of what I think. I think
2:05:33
it makes sense. I think
2:05:35
technology certainly distracts human beings
2:05:38
from human interactions and kids
2:05:40
today are growing up more
2:05:43
socially unbalanced and
2:05:46
more, their
2:05:48
progress is retarded. There's something
2:05:50
about the use of technology
2:05:53
that is certainly, it's
2:05:56
limiting kids' abilities to interact with each other
2:05:58
person to person. And
2:06:01
over time, that's probably going to be the norm.
2:06:05
And if you wanted to think about the
2:06:07
rise of spectrum disorders and
2:06:10
lack of emotional connectivity and empathy that
2:06:13
people have that seem to have those,
2:06:15
especially on the far ends of the
2:06:17
spectrum, and then accentuate
2:06:19
that with added technology, constant
2:06:21
technology. Each technology is more and
2:06:23
more invasive. The population of people
2:06:25
that have these problems, it's almost
2:06:27
like we're moving towards, it's becoming
2:06:29
a different kind of person. Yeah.
2:06:35
This person that works for me turned me onto
2:06:38
this podcast the other day, and it was talking
2:06:40
about how this is unverified,
2:06:42
but it was still a
2:06:44
fascinating conversation. They were talking about
2:06:46
how in,
2:06:49
I can't remember the amount of years,
2:06:51
but humans will begin to lose their
2:06:53
peripheral vision because they're looking at a
2:06:56
phone so much that
2:06:58
they were evolving. I
2:07:01
guess you could, I don't know if
2:07:03
I would call that evolving. Devolving. Yeah,
2:07:05
devolving. Wow. That makes
2:07:07
sense. It does, right? Totally makes sense. I mean,
2:07:09
it's like, shit, go anywhere. That's
2:07:11
what everybody's doing. Narrow band of focus.
2:07:16
If you look at most people's phone usage, what's
2:07:19
the average person's phone usage? I bet
2:07:21
screen time's like four hours average.
2:07:24
I'll bet it's more than that. Okay, but let's
2:07:26
say it's just four. That's a
2:07:28
giant chunk of your day. Yeah, that's, I mean, if you're
2:07:30
up for 12 hours, it's 25% of the day. So
2:07:33
if 25% of the day you're just looking like this, that's
2:07:36
got to have an ultimate effect on your
2:07:38
vision. Damn. Especially over time,
2:07:41
and especially if this becomes completely normal for
2:07:43
a thousand years. Yeah.
2:07:46
Yeah. It wasn't a thousand
2:07:48
years, man. It was like, I
2:07:50
mean, it was way, it was within our
2:07:52
lifetime. Yeah, a couple decades. Yeah. Yeah.
2:07:56
Just makes sense. That would happen. We
2:07:59
adapt, you know? Weirdly. It's,
2:08:01
it's, uh, this
2:08:04
stuff all just scares the hell out
2:08:06
of me. I mean, I think psychedelics
2:08:08
plays a role in all this, you know,
2:08:11
in, in, in accessing, you
2:08:14
know, other information. Yeah,
2:08:16
I think so too. I think it's a giant crime. That
2:08:19
stuff's illegal. It's limited. And
2:08:22
it's limited, like, you know, right now
2:08:24
they're doing some research on it. And,
2:08:27
you know, the FDA was gonna approve
2:08:29
MDMA therapy for benefits, uh, for, uh,
2:08:31
veterans rather, dealing with PTSD.
2:08:34
And they, they stopped it and they, they decided
2:08:36
more tests need to be done. Meanwhile, you're seeing
2:08:38
like real results from people, life changing results. And
2:08:41
there's a lot of people out there that need
2:08:43
help and they should be doing something and it's
2:08:45
not hurting anybody. Dude, do
2:08:47
you want to hear the, the best
2:08:49
story I've ever heard from her? Sure.
2:08:52
I got one of my best friends, former Green
2:08:54
Beret, worked with him at the agency for a
2:08:56
long time. He was
2:08:59
blown up, survived, survived like the worst
2:09:01
fucking car bomb I've ever seen. Like
2:09:03
got up, walked away, dude's head's like
2:09:05
right next to the car. Then
2:09:08
gets out, I don't want to mention his name because I'm going to
2:09:10
bring up some symptoms, but
2:09:13
he, then he, he'd got,
2:09:15
he got fucking shot in the head by
2:09:18
a 38 special round
2:09:21
in the middle of the road and survived
2:09:23
it. And
2:09:27
I've stayed with him through this whole process
2:09:29
when, anyways, couldn't
2:09:31
walk without a cane, was
2:09:34
bedridden five, six days out
2:09:36
of every week, hadn't had sex with
2:09:38
his wife in over two fucking years,
2:09:41
couldn't go outside without sunglasses on because
2:09:44
of the light sensitivity.
2:09:48
And I've been telling him,
2:09:50
hey, you need to, dude, you
2:09:52
have to go down and like do the side became
2:09:54
thing. Nothing
2:09:56
else is working. I think this shit's going to change. I wasn't
2:09:58
even aware of all this stuff. I knew about
2:10:01
the bedridden stuff and but he was
2:10:03
hiding out a lot hiding a lot of that shit
2:10:05
from me and his wife got
2:10:07
and called me and so
2:10:09
I got
2:10:12
him piped in and to this program
2:10:14
went down did I begin and Did
2:10:18
5m eo Left
2:10:21
his fucking cane there went
2:10:23
home banged his wife doesn't
2:10:25
need the sunglasses anymore And it's not
2:10:27
bedridden and that was about six months
2:10:29
ago, and I just talked to him
2:10:31
the other day. It's it's he's still
2:10:33
like Good to
2:10:35
go. That's wild and that dude this
2:10:38
shit happened like It
2:10:43
was four years four years of like
2:10:45
living through that shit I mean crack
2:10:47
skull one I began treatment one I
2:10:49
began treatment done I was like
2:10:51
do you think you'll go back and like see what?
2:10:54
Like if more benefits show up, and he was like
2:10:56
no I'm not I'm not gonna do it, but
2:10:59
he's like not unless I start to slip,
2:11:01
but he's like I'm like good I'm at
2:11:03
peace. I'm I feel Fucking
2:11:06
great. That's incredible. You know imagine if there was
2:11:08
a drug that could do that There
2:11:10
is but imagine if there was a drug
2:11:12
that the pharmaceutical drug companies could sell that
2:11:15
you do that yeah They would be treatment
2:11:17
centers everywhere. Yeah, are you suffering from PTSD?
2:11:19
We can cure you yeah here at ibogenesis
2:11:22
And then you go into that place and you
2:11:24
get hooked up It'll be just like fucking these
2:11:26
GLP ones that they're trying to give people to
2:11:28
lose weight to be everywhere Yeah, everybody would everyone
2:11:31
has stress everyone has trauma come on in
2:11:33
yep, and they just be selling it. Yeah,
2:11:35
you know and I
2:11:38
mean even mind like I haven't I
2:11:40
haven't drank in Almost
2:11:43
three years now really yeah, I just
2:11:45
I Went
2:11:47
down and did that I began
2:11:50
experience and Like it
2:11:52
was just like have you done I began no Why
2:11:55
not? What was good about it? Tell
2:11:57
me what was like? well
2:12:00
It's very effective for people with addiction. Yeah,
2:12:03
well, there it is right there, right? I couldn't
2:12:05
have drank it almost three years, but I mean,
2:12:08
it was, like, do you want like the
2:12:10
whole experience? Sure. Yeah,
2:12:12
yeah, yeah. Yeah, so
2:12:15
I went down to Mexico, and
2:12:19
I just kept having these guys come on my
2:12:21
show, and first one was Eddie
2:12:23
Gallagher. He was talking about psychedelics,
2:12:25
and I was like,
2:12:27
oh no, that shit's for hippies. I'm not fucking
2:12:29
with that. And then, you know, the one that
2:12:32
really got me was, I
2:12:38
had this guy on his name, DJ
2:12:40
Shipley, and he like-
2:12:42
I saw that one. You saw that one? Yeah,
2:12:45
it's great. Dude, DJ's a fucking beast, bro. Yeah,
2:12:47
I follow that guy on his camera. Holy shit. Like, takes
2:12:50
Davey Seal to a whole different level.
2:12:53
But anyways, but yeah, he like
2:12:55
went out of his way after we
2:12:58
recorded, and he was like, hey dude, like, you
2:13:00
should really fucking think about going down there.
2:13:03
And I was like, all right, well,
2:13:06
you know, I've done all the- I've done like a
2:13:08
ton of research. I've talked to a bunch of guys
2:13:10
about it. I understand like how it works now, and
2:13:12
so fuck
2:13:14
it, I'll go. And so I went
2:13:17
down there, because I
2:13:19
just wanted to be more in the moment with
2:13:21
my family. I got two little kids now,
2:13:25
and so I went down there, and that was
2:13:27
like, I felt like
2:13:29
I was kind of like through the PTSD type
2:13:32
stuff, and maybe
2:13:35
not, but I just wanted to get rid
2:13:37
of anxiety and
2:13:39
be in the moment with my family and da da da da da. And
2:13:42
so I went down and did
2:13:45
the Ibogaine thing, and
2:13:47
we took these pills,
2:13:50
and like the- I didn't get
2:13:52
a lot of visuals, but the first visual I
2:13:54
got was I was just sitting there like looking
2:13:57
in this mirror, shaking
2:13:59
this fucking mirror. Maraca and
2:14:01
my head's like I was like alright this
2:14:03
shit is not working well then my head
2:14:05
like it like
2:14:09
split open like oh in
2:14:12
the mirror yeah dude it
2:14:14
was like I watched my head like
2:14:17
peel like a fucking
2:14:19
banana like it was just like and
2:14:22
then and then another head
2:14:25
like just blossomed
2:14:27
out of it whoa yeah
2:14:29
it was really odd
2:14:33
and then I was like alright
2:14:35
it's definitely fucking kicking in I'm gonna
2:14:40
lay back and and
2:14:43
it was kind of to
2:14:47
me like the whole experience maybe I guess
2:14:50
I just lost total concept of time it
2:14:52
didn't feel it was like 12 hours but
2:14:55
it didn't feel like 12 hours
2:14:57
but it didn't really feel like five
2:14:59
minutes either but I
2:15:02
got like this life review kind of
2:15:04
thing and just had
2:15:06
these TV screens it looked like all black
2:15:09
like you're in space or something and then
2:15:12
these two lines of TV screens that were
2:15:14
going in my peripheral vision and
2:15:16
what was playing in those TV screens
2:15:18
was and it was moving like
2:15:21
it kind of a slow pace and
2:15:23
so like I could see what
2:15:25
was going on in the TV screens through
2:15:27
my peripheral but if I
2:15:29
tried to concentrate on any one particular
2:15:31
thing then they would
2:15:34
like all just disappear until
2:15:36
I stop trying to like concentrate
2:15:39
on one thing and then they all appear again and
2:15:42
I could like look at it through my
2:15:44
peripheral and I'd be like oh you know
2:15:46
that was that was in Baghdad
2:15:48
that's when I was five years old and
2:15:50
my dad was like yelling
2:15:53
at me and that was this and
2:15:55
it was like but it
2:15:58
wasn't like I wasn't like reliving traumatic
2:16:02
events. It was just like passing
2:16:05
me by. Like recording. Yeah. Like
2:16:07
old VHS tape. Yeah. And
2:16:10
so I just let them like pass
2:16:13
and then I went into some other stage which
2:16:15
I don't really understand but it was a bunch
2:16:17
of like these walls of stuffed
2:16:20
animals and I was kind of like going through
2:16:22
this maze and then like the
2:16:24
last thing I talked about before I did the
2:16:26
experience was China.
2:16:31
So then I had like this horrible this
2:16:33
horrible thing about the Chinese
2:16:35
invasion. But what
2:16:38
came out of that like it's like
2:16:40
oh well that that doesn't sound very good. Well yeah
2:16:42
what came out of that I lost 11 pounds
2:16:46
in literally one week. It's a
2:16:49
week-long type of experience. I lost
2:16:51
11 fucking pounds. It's also a heavy
2:16:53
metals detoxer by the way so that's
2:16:56
probably probably I'd like some heavy metals
2:16:58
blocking me up or something. But
2:17:02
though the the whites of my
2:17:04
eyes like cleared up like
2:17:08
and it wasn't just me I'd like journal all this
2:17:10
shit down and then I didn't tell my
2:17:12
wife any of this stuff and
2:17:15
I came home and she's like your
2:17:19
eyes look like a lot lighter like
2:17:22
the whites look a lot lighter whiter
2:17:25
and and in my brown eyes
2:17:27
looked like they had lightened up
2:17:29
huh yeah and then it was
2:17:32
also like I had realized everything
2:17:35
that I was ingesting that was poison.
2:17:38
It was like this going
2:17:40
back to intuition it was like
2:17:42
this intuition of like I
2:17:46
just I was like you know I didn't come I
2:17:48
didn't go down there to quit drinking you
2:17:50
know I just it just fucking
2:17:52
happened man like I was just like I don't
2:17:54
think I'm gonna drink anymore. So
2:17:56
I haven't had a drink and like
2:17:59
I said just under three feet. Do you think
2:18:01
you had a drinking problem? Oh fuck yeah man, I had
2:18:03
a drinking problem. Big
2:18:05
drinking problem. But
2:18:08
you didn't think it at the time? Well,
2:18:11
my drinking problem had digressed
2:18:15
quite a bit. So, I mean
2:18:17
I used to drink close to
2:18:20
two-fifths of vodka a day.
2:18:26
Whoa. But
2:18:30
then that was coming out
2:18:32
of the age and said I didn't
2:18:34
have anything to do really. And processing
2:18:37
a lot of what had happened over
2:18:39
the past 14 years. Didn't
2:18:42
have any friends, severely depressed,
2:18:44
whatever man. Loved to
2:18:46
party. And that
2:18:49
just, it was wake up, drink
2:18:53
many bottles of vodka all day long. And
2:18:55
then at night, you know, I'd crack
2:18:57
a fifth. But by the time I
2:19:00
went there, it was
2:19:04
like probably two bottles of wine instead
2:19:06
of two bottles of vodka a night.
2:19:08
Still, holy shit. Yeah.
2:19:11
That's a lot of wine. Well, I mean that's,
2:19:13
yeah, it is. But
2:19:18
anyways, came back and I just
2:19:21
didn't want the wine anymore. I used to
2:19:23
take Adderall, addicted
2:19:26
to that. Didn't
2:19:28
need that. Didn't need this Ambien anymore.
2:19:31
Didn't need anything. Cold
2:19:33
turkey. Cold turkey, man. Weed,
2:19:36
quit weed for about six months and
2:19:41
then, yeah, then I went
2:19:43
back. And even sugar, man.
2:19:46
I quit sugar for about six months. And
2:19:49
it was, you know, the funny thing is, man,
2:19:51
like it was zero effort. It wasn't like I'm
2:19:53
not fucking drinking and I'm not going to do
2:19:55
sugar and I'm not going to smoke weed and
2:19:57
no more Adderall. I just
2:19:59
didn't. wanted and there
2:20:02
was no, there
2:20:04
was just no urge. There was no addiction
2:20:07
left. It was gone. Wow.
2:20:09
That's the thing they say about Ibogaine that it
2:20:12
uniquely rewires your brain. Yeah.
2:20:14
There's some sort of a scientific understanding of how
2:20:16
it works, but the
2:20:19
fact that it's illegal in this country is bananas.
2:20:21
Yeah. I mean, how
2:20:23
many people are suffering through opioid addiction?
2:20:25
It's an enormous number. If
2:20:28
there was a thing that we are aware of that
2:20:31
could help all of our citizens that
2:20:33
are struggling right now listening to this,
2:20:35
if people are struggling, and
2:20:37
there's a thing and it's illegal in this
2:20:39
country. Yep. As far as
2:20:41
I know, I don't think people are dying
2:20:44
from Ibogaine. You know,
2:20:46
Ibogaine was, it was very funny
2:20:48
that Hunter chose this, but Hunter S. Thompson
2:20:50
used that during, was it the McGovern,
2:20:54
the McGovern elections? It was
2:20:57
like 72, whatever it was, and when he
2:21:00
rode fear and loathing on
2:21:02
the campaign trail. So he created
2:21:04
a rumor that Ed Muskie, who was
2:21:06
one of the candidates, had a severe
2:21:08
Ibogaine addiction and the Brazilian scientists were
2:21:11
coming to visit him and
2:21:13
give him this treatment. And it
2:21:16
became such a rumor and it spread so
2:21:18
far and it started affecting him. And he
2:21:20
was giving campaign speeches and he was denying
2:21:22
it, and he was all sweating, and he
2:21:24
looked like a maniac. And
2:21:27
Hunter essentially derailed this guy's
2:21:29
campaign by saying that
2:21:31
he was addicted to Ibogaine and the wall things.
2:21:33
I think Ibogaine would be impossible to do. See,
2:21:36
if you can find Hunter on the Dick Cavett
2:21:38
Show where he admits that he started the rumor,
2:21:41
it's very funny. Wow. I fucking loved that
2:21:43
dude. God, I wish I met him. Yeah,
2:21:45
me too. He was a fucking maniac. That
2:21:47
would have been wild. But the fact that
2:21:49
he used Ibogaine was really funny and ironic
2:21:51
because that's the thing that gets you to
2:21:54
quit addictions. Yeah. I mean, it's
2:21:56
not a fun experience, man. There's a lot of
2:21:58
bad things. I never
2:22:01
said he was. I said there was a rumor
2:22:03
in Milwaukee that he was, which was true. And
2:22:08
I started the rumor in
2:22:10
Milwaukee. Oh, shit. That
2:22:13
guy, he fucked everybody up because
2:22:15
he would do actual journalism mixed
2:22:17
in with fiction. And, you
2:22:20
know, he called it gonzo journalism. He essentially started
2:22:22
a new kind of journalism. There
2:22:24
was an understanding that some of this
2:22:26
was not real. And you had to
2:22:29
kind of figure out what was real and what wasn't real,
2:22:31
and he was just going to do it his way. He
2:22:34
was a cool dude, man. He was
2:22:36
a cool dude. That would have been a hell
2:22:38
of an interview. Oh, my God, yeah. But the
2:22:40
fact that he chose Ibogaine is kind of funny.
2:22:43
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because they
2:22:45
say it's like the one that you would... You
2:22:48
can't get addicted to. Honestly, I don't think I could get
2:22:50
addicted to any of them. Yeah,
2:22:53
I don't think so either. I've heard of people that get
2:22:55
addicted to certain psychedelics. But I think
2:22:58
there's people that do psychedelics to learn more about
2:23:00
themselves, and I think there's people that do it
2:23:02
to escape. And I think they
2:23:04
escape reality with it, and then they get used to
2:23:06
escape, and then they choose that as their reality, and
2:23:08
they do it way too much. I
2:23:10
think there's abuse with everything. Yeah. I
2:23:13
think you can certainly abuse at least some
2:23:15
psychedelics. But the benefits
2:23:17
of them far outweigh the negatives, and there's a
2:23:19
lot of people that are hurting in this country,
2:23:21
and they should have access to all the different
2:23:23
things that could help them. Yeah, yeah. And the
2:23:26
fact that you have to go to Mexico to
2:23:28
do that... It's ridiculous, man.
2:23:30
I mean, it's fucking working. Yeah.
2:23:33
It's working, and
2:23:37
it's just... Why the fuck?
2:23:39
Why? Why? Why? Why can't
2:23:41
you let
2:23:44
us... I'm
2:23:46
speaking for
2:23:49
the veteran population right now, but why
2:23:51
can't you just let us fucking get
2:23:53
better? Right. Like, everybody knows the
2:23:56
22 a day, you know,
2:23:58
which is actually like 40-something a day. of
2:24:00
veterans that are killing themselves and this shit
2:24:03
is a fucking game changer and But
2:24:07
I don't think big pharma is gonna allow it. I
2:24:09
just I think that's what the holdup is
2:24:11
Well, maybe that's something that RFK jr. Can
2:24:13
help. Yeah if they get in the office Yeah,
2:24:16
if they get in office, I mean, but when you hear about
2:24:18
the five kill teams and you hear about all this different shit
2:24:20
That's going on. I mean
2:24:24
October hasn't even started
2:24:26
yet. You got a full month of October and
2:24:28
who knows what the fucking happened. Yeah up and
2:24:31
leading up to the elections Yeah,
2:24:33
I don't think they're gonna load up I
2:24:36
don't think so whoever they are and in not
2:24:38
only that but it is, you know, forget about
2:24:40
the Organization like to forget
2:24:42
about like that There are people out there
2:24:45
probably like Iran and maybe state
2:24:47
actors or who knows that's trying to
2:24:49
kill Trump What about this the
2:24:51
fucking general kooks that have been buying all
2:24:53
this rhetoric? Every day that he's a
2:24:55
threat to democracy and they think that this is the one
2:24:57
thing that can give them meaning in their life the
2:25:00
one Great act that they
2:25:02
can accomplish to go out and kill Trump.
2:25:04
I mean,
2:25:06
it's I Don't
2:25:09
know man, I mean it's there's
2:25:12
just There's
2:25:14
so much that that goes into
2:25:16
this like that first shooter, right? What was
2:25:18
he 20 years old? Yeah, you know 20
2:25:20
years old Then
2:25:23
you got you know Trump's basically been in
2:25:25
the media for what about eight years You
2:25:27
think he showed up what about a year
2:25:29
before before the 2016 election,
2:25:31
right kind of went in so
2:25:34
we're going on what eight years now of of
2:25:37
the media just Slamming him
2:25:40
over and over. He's a threat to democracy.
2:25:42
This is gonna ruin the country, you know
2:25:44
So if you take that 20 year old,
2:25:46
I mean A
2:25:49
so he's since he was 12 years old.
2:25:52
That's all he's heard. Yeah 12 fucking
2:25:54
years old That's all he's heard and little kids
2:25:56
have no ability to discern so Is
2:26:01
it a very
2:26:03
well orchestrated act
2:26:05
to kill him? Or is it
2:26:10
media manipulation that nobody really thought too
2:26:12
far into this and now it's all
2:26:15
– now we're seeing the consequences, you know,
2:26:17
of what that kind of
2:26:21
pushing an agenda like that will do? It's
2:26:23
probably both things, you know. It's probably both
2:26:25
things. It's probably all the
2:26:27
above. And
2:26:30
the fact that 24% of Americans think – or
2:26:32
polled, obviously polled because those are
2:26:34
the dumbest motherfuckers of all time anyway, people
2:26:36
that answer polls. You always have to think
2:26:38
of that, you know. Like 99%
2:26:40
of people don't answer polls. So out
2:26:42
of that 1%, 24% of
2:26:44
those retards are dumb enough to think
2:26:46
that it's a good idea to shoot Trump and
2:26:49
that the American people shouldn't be able to decide
2:26:51
on their own. That's what's really crazy.
2:26:53
They think they're right and you're wrong
2:26:55
and no matter what, they have to stop you
2:26:58
from getting your vote. They have to
2:27:00
stop you from voting in the direction that you are
2:27:02
thinking you are going to vote for. It's
2:27:07
just a scary time. A scary time for the
2:27:09
republic. It really is. Yes,
2:27:11
it is. Like weirdly scary. And
2:27:14
also like weirdly chaotic in the sense
2:27:16
that this is all happening at the
2:27:18
same time as the rise of podcasts
2:27:21
and social media and new
2:27:23
ways to get information. Some more people are aware
2:27:25
of how fucked we are now than like
2:27:27
during the Vietnam War. People
2:27:30
were against the Vietnam War and
2:27:32
they're against fighting the troops
2:27:34
in the Vietnam War but they didn't
2:27:36
really know what was going on. They didn't have
2:27:38
like full access to it like we have now.
2:27:40
Yeah, yeah. I
2:27:44
don't know where this ends, man. I mean part of
2:27:46
me thinks, you know, it's just, it's,
2:27:50
part of me thinks we're just going to end in
2:27:53
a, some type of a civil war. That's
2:27:55
terrifying. Yeah. Yeah. I
2:27:58
mean that seems like, it seems like it's definitely being
2:28:00
pushed in that direction. I
2:28:02
mean, I think we're kind of already there. It's
2:28:05
just going to look a lot different. It's a Cold
2:28:07
War, right? You know? Yeah. You see these states
2:28:09
banding together. You
2:28:12
see blue states banding together. You see bright
2:28:14
states banding together. You see a lot
2:28:16
of governors aligning, sending
2:28:18
National Guard down here to Texas
2:28:21
to try to secure the border.
2:28:27
You got these extreme,
2:28:30
look, I don't, whether you agree
2:28:32
with me or not, they're extreme. And
2:28:35
so like the abortion stuff,
2:28:37
you got states that are making
2:28:39
these super-parsh abortion laws. We're going
2:28:41
to hunt you down if you
2:28:43
get one and throw your ass
2:28:46
in prison. And I
2:28:49
think I can't remember how
2:28:51
many states now have passed. Constitutional carry is
2:28:53
like 20. I
2:28:56
can't remember. I think there's only
2:28:58
like a state or two left that need constitutional carry.
2:29:01
But I mean, I think basically what
2:29:03
I'm getting at is I think the lines are kind
2:29:05
of like being drawn right
2:29:08
now. Or the alliances are kind of forming
2:29:11
up like, hey, let's pass
2:29:13
these super red laws,
2:29:16
these super left law or blue
2:29:18
laws, and it'll drive everybody
2:29:20
out of the state that we want. And it'll,
2:29:22
do you know what I'm
2:29:24
getting at? Yeah, I do know what you're getting at. I
2:29:27
think this is all kind of happening naturally.
2:29:31
Yeah, I don't know what the solution to any of
2:29:33
this stuff is. I hope it's a
2:29:35
greater understanding that we develop
2:29:37
over time where we figure out
2:29:39
how to communicate better and work
2:29:41
together. And I think some of
2:29:44
that can be facilitated through AI
2:29:46
if it's done correctly, if it's like a real
2:29:49
open source AI, where people
2:29:51
can get a real better understanding of the
2:29:53
actual mechanisms instead of like whatever beliefs you have
2:29:55
and why the system works the way it
2:29:57
is, if you can just have it laid out.
2:30:00
Yeah factually laid out where there
2:30:02
can be no shenanigans. You can't
2:30:04
deny it I mean, I think
2:30:06
one way would just be having
2:30:08
podcasters and and journalists. I Mean
2:30:13
how the fuck would you do this? But you
2:30:15
know one thing on Like
2:30:18
on my show and I kind of went off
2:30:21
the rails a little bit the last month. I've
2:30:23
got a little bright More
2:30:25
political than I'm one. I was I
2:30:28
hate politics man. Yeah me too I mean,
2:30:30
it's it's the kind of they come up all
2:30:32
the time to the country. Yeah, you know every
2:30:34
time I dive in I Feel
2:30:38
like I
2:30:40
feel like I fucked a hooker on a rusty
2:30:42
couch It's like
2:30:44
I don't think this shit's gonna wash it off
2:30:47
But But
2:30:54
But anyways where I was going is I
2:30:56
you know I the people have just lost
2:30:58
the fucking ability to think for themselves like
2:31:00
they can't critical think anymore and You
2:31:04
know, so like one thing that I do on
2:31:06
mine is if I bring somebody on that's
2:31:09
I'm like Don't say
2:31:11
Trump 500 times on my show Let's
2:31:15
not say like fuck the left fuck the
2:31:17
right Like let's not say
2:31:19
these fucking Democrats and these fucking
2:31:21
Republicans like just just give
2:31:23
me the policy Just give
2:31:26
me the problem. Just like let's just leave
2:31:28
all that shit out Yeah, because if you
2:31:30
leave all that all those
2:31:32
adjectives out, then it forces
2:31:34
people to go Well shit
2:31:36
I don't really know it forces them to
2:31:39
formulate their own opinion because they don't know
2:31:41
what their side thinks about That
2:31:43
particular issue unless you're talking
2:31:45
about abortion or something like that But you
2:31:48
know what? I'm you know what I mean If you
2:31:50
leave that out of if you leave if you can
2:31:52
leave those adjectives out then I think common
2:31:56
sense will start to make a comeback
2:31:58
because it won't be so
2:32:00
tribal that we'll be like, well, actually,
2:32:02
I don't really, I don't know
2:32:05
where the party that I
2:32:07
align with stands on this,
2:32:09
so I'm going to have to formulate my own fucking
2:32:11
opinion here. And,
2:32:13
man, that would do wonders for
2:32:15
humanity. We definitely need more people that are willing
2:32:18
to do that, too, because some people just don't
2:32:20
have the time or the interest to
2:32:22
form their own opinions on things. It's so
2:32:24
much easier to just agree with whatever their side
2:32:26
believes. How did you
2:32:28
get started in doing a podcast? What was the motivation
2:32:30
behind it? Well,
2:32:33
I used to teach weapons and
2:32:36
tactics, and I taught
2:32:39
Keanu Reeves for John Wick 3, and
2:32:45
then I got a lot of hate.
2:32:47
I'll just put it that way. I
2:32:49
got a lot of hate from
2:32:52
the special operations community, from
2:32:55
the two-way community, and I
2:32:58
was like, you know what, man? It's
2:33:00
a very egocentric community anyways, and so I
2:33:02
was like, I'm fucking done with this shit.
2:33:08
I just started ... Dude, I didn't know
2:33:10
what to do. I was doing camping stove
2:33:13
reviews, and I bought a bunch of
2:33:15
fucking alpacas and put them in my front yard, and I
2:33:17
thought I was going to be a farmer. You
2:33:21
know what I did? I was like,
2:33:23
dude, I'm
2:33:26
so fucking tired of my
2:33:29
guys killing themselves
2:33:31
and going into repression and suicide
2:33:33
attempts, and I got
2:33:35
sick of the same
2:33:37
talking heads on TV kind of
2:33:39
documenting what was going on over there.
2:33:43
It was a bunch of people who had never even stepped
2:33:45
foot in any of
2:33:47
those war zones documenting what happened over there.
2:33:53
I just started, and I'd built maybe 250,000 subs on YouTube
2:33:55
from ... gun
2:34:00
stuff. And so
2:34:02
I started, I was like, I got
2:34:04
to, one, we got to document the
2:34:06
history. Two, there's
2:34:08
a major fucking suicide epidemic happening.
2:34:10
So let's talk about some guys
2:34:12
that had hit attempted. I
2:34:15
was, I mean, I tried to kill myself,
2:34:17
but let's, let's get some guys that
2:34:19
have really been through it, dug themselves
2:34:21
out of it. And, and, and
2:34:25
let's, so it's, so it's, we're documenting
2:34:28
history the way it happened. We
2:34:30
are talking about the, the veteran
2:34:32
crisis that's going on and
2:34:35
how people got out of it. And
2:34:37
then it also, and then at the end
2:34:39
of the, every episode was, Hey, let's like,
2:34:41
let's talk about your business, you know, cause
2:34:44
it's stories what sells. So let's, let's do
2:34:46
the whole story and get everybody like super
2:34:48
attached to you. Let's document
2:34:50
the history, talk about your vulnerabilities, what
2:34:52
it was like trans re transitioning back
2:34:55
into civilian life, how fucked up
2:34:57
it was, how you ruined your family, how you
2:34:59
tried to kill yourself, all that shit, how you
2:35:01
came out of it. And then let's talk about
2:35:03
your business. And so, I mean,
2:35:06
these guys would come on and,
2:35:09
and, you know, their business
2:35:11
would like jet launch overnight,
2:35:14
which I'm sure you, you know, but
2:35:17
in that I just did, I just liked
2:35:20
doing it. I liked fucking helping
2:35:22
people and, and, but
2:35:26
I'll tell you, like
2:35:29
I started, it was awesome. I
2:35:31
loved it. I still, there's nothing else I'd rather
2:35:34
do. I started, I
2:35:36
started feeling a lot of resentment
2:35:38
to my guests because they
2:35:41
would come on my show
2:35:44
and then they would like
2:35:46
pass me up business wise like that. And I was
2:35:48
like, fuck man, like what, what the fuck do I have
2:35:50
to do to make a business out of this shit?
2:35:52
Like I was like, I'm great
2:35:54
at like jet launching everybody else's shit,
2:35:57
but I'm not making any fucking money
2:35:59
here. and I got a family
2:36:01
to support and This
2:36:04
isn't gonna work out and then I
2:36:06
don't know what happened man But then
2:36:08
something just like switched like God just
2:36:10
stepped in and was like you're
2:36:12
doing good shit like I'm
2:36:16
gonna I'm gonna bless you and
2:36:19
and I just like hit a turning point and Now
2:36:24
I just talked to whoever I'm
2:36:26
interested in But
2:36:29
but well you're doing a great show and I
2:36:31
think that's all it takes I think
2:36:33
do you do a great show and then
2:36:35
the beautiful thing about social media and YouTube
2:36:37
and all these different things is that People
2:36:39
could just share it like I've had
2:36:41
a few people I think Billy Carson I think somebody
2:36:43
sent me that one and you know, it's
2:36:46
just like someone would say hey check this out You
2:36:48
know and just send you a text message. That's such
2:36:50
a massive advantage of YouTube
2:36:53
and And Spotify on a lot of these apps
2:36:55
is that someone could just send you a show
2:36:57
like you'd really love this show check it Out
2:36:59
and then you just click it and all sudden
2:37:01
it's playing, you know and I play it
2:37:03
in my car could play it in the sauna and I'm
2:37:05
listening to this and it It's
2:37:09
a complete new thing that's
2:37:12
available anytime you want you could
2:37:14
pause it No, I know
2:37:16
it's you. I know I got one of the things I
2:37:18
like about your show is I can 100% tell This
2:37:21
is just you talking to these guys.
2:37:23
Like what did you do? I got
2:37:25
okay explain that to me like it's
2:37:27
just you and in
2:37:31
this world of talking heads That
2:37:34
has become a very refreshing alternative to a
2:37:36
lot of people and if you do a
2:37:38
good show like yours It just grows. It's
2:37:40
just people will find it, you
2:37:42
know people share it and it just organically
2:37:45
grows Well, thank you for checking
2:37:47
it out. Hey, my pleasure. How did why
2:37:49
did you start yours? I
2:37:51
started just on a laptop
2:37:54
Answering questions like with a friend of
2:37:56
mine my friend Brian. We started with we
2:37:59
were just just fucking around we thought it'd be fun to just
2:38:01
do for fun you know I always wanted to do a
2:38:03
radio show but I thought no one's ever gonna give me
2:38:06
a radio show you know when I
2:38:08
was when I was touring doing clubs back
2:38:10
in the day where you would have to
2:38:12
do morning radio I would like to do
2:38:14
it I would like because I have these
2:38:16
crazy things that I'm interested in crazy stories
2:38:18
so I'd come in do these morning radio
2:38:20
shows and I'd be like wow
2:38:23
what a great job that would be a big morning
2:38:25
radio game yeah I'd fuck up and swear that
2:38:27
wouldn't work and then the rise of
2:38:30
podcasts happened and you know Adam Carolla
2:38:32
had one and you know there's a
2:38:34
bunch of other ones and then Opie
2:38:36
and Anthony Anthony Kumea from
2:38:38
Opie and Anthony started doing his own show called
2:38:40
live from the compound where he's doing like karaoke
2:38:43
holding a machine gun and he's out of his
2:38:45
fucking mind he built a television
2:38:47
studio in his basement and I was like
2:38:49
fuck he can do that and do that
2:38:51
online like I need to start doing
2:38:54
something so we started out just doing
2:38:56
this little oh and also the Tom
2:38:58
Green show Tom Green had his own
2:39:00
like internet talk show and
2:39:03
I was a guest on it along with for my podcast I
2:39:05
was like you just gotta figure out how to make money out
2:39:07
of this like you look you could see the the
2:39:10
seeds of my podcast being planted while I was
2:39:12
on his show I was like this is amazing
2:39:14
no executives no one talking to you that
2:39:17
and then I actually even was in talks with the
2:39:19
company that was doing it with him to do my
2:39:21
own thing with them but I just decided to do
2:39:23
it on my own I'm like I don't do nothing
2:39:25
with nobody I wanted it to just be 100% me
2:39:27
just fucking around
2:39:30
and in the beginning all my friends like what the fuck
2:39:32
are you doing like why are you wasting your time they'd
2:39:35
come over my house and my kids were
2:39:37
really young at the time so like in the early
2:39:39
days like you would hear we were in one of
2:39:41
my spare bedrooms with a desk set up and you'd
2:39:43
hear mommy she took my thing
2:39:47
the kids are arguing with each other
2:39:50
so it was you know from that moving
2:39:52
into like a little studio
2:39:54
rented a little office space somewhere and and
2:39:57
then moved into a warehouse and
2:40:00
got a real studio and then started
2:40:02
having security there and then started,
2:40:04
well, I should have a fucking
2:40:06
gym here. Let's put a gym in and started, you know,
2:40:08
bringing in guys to train with. And
2:40:11
then it just got big, all organic. I
2:40:16
never did ads for it. I never did
2:40:18
put a billboard up. I never went on
2:40:20
other people's podcasts and said, please watch my
2:40:22
podcast. Never did any of that, never promoted
2:40:24
it. It just grew. That's
2:40:27
awesome. But it's all the same reason
2:40:29
why yours is growing. It's just, I
2:40:31
talk to whoever I wanna talk to. Yeah. You
2:40:34
know? I watched your show a bunch of times, reached out to you
2:40:36
on Instagram. Look what's up. Yep,
2:40:38
yep. But
2:40:40
the way you do it and the way I
2:40:42
do it is I think that's why it's interesting.
2:40:44
Because I can tell, like, when you're talking to
2:40:46
that guy that was talking about the direct energy
2:40:48
weapons and antarctic, all that crazy shit, like, you
2:40:50
wanted to hear what the guy had to say.
2:40:53
Like, you know, this is why he was on there.
2:40:56
This isn't like some producer has told you
2:40:58
the list of guests that you're gonna have
2:41:00
for the week and you're
2:41:02
not really interested in it and you gotta interview some fucking
2:41:04
kid in a boy band. I can't do
2:41:06
it. I can't do it. There's
2:41:09
no reason to do it. Yeah, you know,
2:41:12
when I started, we
2:41:14
started in the attic, it was me and my wife, we had
2:41:16
these shit cameras that had 30 minute timers, so
2:41:19
my Glover was my first guest.
2:41:22
And so my wife was running back and forth,
2:41:25
resetting these 30 minute fucking timer cameras and I'm
2:41:27
trying to run the sound and listen to what
2:41:29
the hell Mike's saying. And I'm like, this
2:41:33
is fucking awesome. We're gonna do this for
2:41:35
a long time. What year did you start?
2:41:38
I started, first one got
2:41:40
pumped out Christmas of 2019.
2:41:43
Wow. Yeah. Well, that's
2:41:45
also a great example because a lot of people wanna
2:41:47
say that the podcast market is too saturated now. Like,
2:41:49
I've heard people say that, ah, it's too hard to
2:41:51
make it in the podcast market. I'm like, I
2:41:54
don't believe that. I don't believe that.
2:41:56
I think if you got a good show, it's gonna
2:41:58
rise. Same here. And that's you. Thank
2:42:00
you. Thank you. Well, I studied the hell
2:42:02
out of your show and when I was
2:42:04
doing it and and you know I
2:42:06
wanted to I Just
2:42:09
wanted to make it different. I didn't
2:42:11
want to copy the red
2:42:13
curtain and You know
2:42:15
what I mean? You made it yours. Yeah, you
2:42:17
really did and it's
2:42:19
uh, that's the great thing about this And
2:42:22
we need more voices like yours out there
2:42:24
more different people that are doing the same
2:42:26
kind of thing You know following their own
2:42:28
interests talking to people honestly having these long-term
2:42:31
Long-form podcasts like the
2:42:34
the one with the guys studying the UFOs. I think
2:42:36
that's like four and a half hours long, right? Which
2:42:38
one? Is it
2:42:40
what's his name? John Alexander? Yeah, I
2:42:43
did one that was like nine hours Yeah,
2:42:45
John Alexander. This one is how long is
2:42:47
this one? Let me check
2:42:51
Let's say Resume
2:42:56
Six hours, yeah Yeah,
2:43:00
it's six hours in a couple of minutes Yeah
2:43:02
of you talking to this guy about paranormal programs
2:43:04
in the government. I don't want to let
2:43:06
him go It
2:43:09
was amazing. It's crazy stuff man.
2:43:11
Thank you. Listen Shawn. It was great to
2:43:13
meet you. I really appreciate you I appreciate
2:43:15
what you're doing. I appreciate how you do it and
2:43:19
It's good to become friends. Hey, thank you
2:43:21
for having me Joe. My pleasure to be here.
2:43:23
All right. Bye everybody Oh watch the show Shawn
2:43:25
Ryan show it's on everything, right? Yep
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