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you up to? Well, you know what, just driving through Maple Valley

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right now, so you know, just getting off work, getting ready to

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go home and have a cold drink. I like it? All right?

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Well, Mark, let's see if we can get you these tickets on top

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of all that. Are you ready for your clues? Let's do this,

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all right, Mark. Zz Top is considered to be one of the longest

0:54

running American bands without any band members changing. Can you name one of the

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members of zz Top first and last name? Well, you got Billy GiB

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His, Dusty Hill, Frank Pier. Wow. I don't know. I

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a great time at White River Amphitheater on September twenty first, we'll be playing

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again, giving you a chance to win tomorrow write about eight ten. But

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we are just about ready for Rick Jones. Rick Jones of Goldberg Jones will

2:08

be joining us any minute now. If you've got a question about divorce,

2:13

family law, child, custody, to any of those things, call eight

2:15

hundred two five two one oh two five. Rick Jones will be joining us

2:19

at seven thirty on one oh two point five kz Okay the Classic rock Station,

2:23

Divorce, Staalzel support custody issues. Rick Jones of Goldberg Jones is in

2:28

the studio to give you free legal advice. Call now eight hundred two two

2:32

one oh two five. That's right. Rick Jones is here. Good morning,

2:36

Rick Jones, Good morning, Sarah. How's going It's going great. I'm still riding the high of watching my dogs take care of business last Friday

2:43

down in Las Vegas. How could you not be? You were? Were

2:46

you at the game? I was, yeah, Oh that's awesome. What

2:49

an exciting moment. It was a blast, super fun. And are you

2:53

going to be at the bowl game? Waiting to see getting there transportation wise?

2:58

Like you're reading about in the papers, it's been a little difficult. But if there's a will, there's a way. I got the will.

3:02

Go dogs. Rick Jones is here in studio eight hundred and two five two

3:07

one o two five. If you've got a question about divorce, anything in

3:10

that or universe, Rick Jones is going to have the answer for you.

3:15

Our first caller is Mark in Seattle. Hey, Mark, Hey, Hey,

3:20

what's going on? Rick? How you doing? I had a question I thought I heard you say recently that it's unlikely for a father and a

3:24

divorce to be granted fifty to fifty custody of young children. My wife works

3:30

more ours than I do. We have two kids age three or five.

3:35

Is there a chance of me giving custody based on that, or is fifty

3:38

to fifty a chance where she is going to stay at home? Yeah? I mean sure, certainly there's a chance. When you heard me before talking

3:44

about young children, we were probably talking about infants and maybe even short of

3:49

that, you know, toddlers, things that are you know, kids that

3:52

are a little bit more I guess, reliant on the physical side of motherhood. So with the ages of your kids and the fact that you're telling me

3:59

that she your work schedule is actually more onerous than yours, it tells the

4:03

world that you're already performing some of these parenting functions that the courts look at

4:09

and value very highly. So what you certainly want to do is to start

4:13

writing things down. In other words, prepare yourself for information you're going to

4:16

give to an attorney about what your day to day is. Obviously, you

4:20

feed the kids, do you get them bathed, You get them off to

4:24

whatever obligations they might have, if it's preschool or otherwise. So those are

4:28

the types of things that people are looking at when they're trying to make a decision about what's in the best interests of your children. Well, good luck,

4:33

Mark, that sounds like we are starting off with some good news.

4:36

Love it all right? Great, thank you. If you've got a question

4:41

for Rick Jones, call eight hundred and two five two one two five Right

4:44

now, Rick Jones is here taking your calls basically giving you free legal advice.

4:47

Jason in Bellevue is our next caller on with Rick Jones of Goldbrig Jones.

4:51

Hey, Jason, how can I help you? Hey? Well,

4:55

actually, I'm kind of I'm headed toward divorce right now, and I'm just

4:59

wondering about some of the small things, like I don't know, how do

5:01

you figure out who the kids are going to spend holidays with? That kind

5:03

of thing and stuff that's hammered out verbally? Do you just talk about it

5:09

or is it literally like Christmas and East are in the divorce agreement on paper?

5:15

Sure, well, it can happen either way, to the extent that

5:17

the two of you can just work out by agreement conversationally how this all should

5:23

go down. That's great. Now you still end up manifesting that agreement in

5:26

what's called a parenting plan, which is your rule book, you know,

5:29

like a board game used to have. So you still want to create a parenting plan that lays it out every single year now, even in the absence

5:36

of agreement, though, there's some common practices where you go in with an

5:40

expectation and usually when it comes to holidays, those regardless of the of the

5:45

overall custody split, those are usually split down the middle. For example,

5:48

it may say father has Christmas Eve and Christmas Day every odd year, mother

5:56

every even year, and that'll be actual verbiage in his parenting the parenting plan.

6:00

The goal of a parenting plan is to always have a rule book that answers every single question you could ask in the absence of an agreement. And

6:06

Danny Bartaducci has always said, make sure you get that all in writing,

6:11

because everything can seem amicable in the beginning and it's all like, oh yeah,

6:15

Jason totally can have them for Christmas, and then the following year she's

6:19

like, no, I'm keeping the kids for Christmas. Danny's a wise man.

6:24

Well, Rick Jones is the wise man when it comes to the world

6:26

of divorce. If you've got a question for him, you can call right

6:29

now. Eight hundred and two five two one oh two five. Rick Jones sitting right here taking your calls. We've got an anonymous caller from Renton.

6:35

We've got a John Doe. Hello, John Doe, how are we doing

6:42

today? Terrific? How can I help you? So? I was divorced

6:46

back in two thousand and seven. My wife at the time wanted half of

6:54

my retirement. We started a QDRO but they finished it and it said be

7:00

determined at a later date. Is there a statue of limitations on that?

7:05

No, there's not, because if in your divorce decree it reserved that right

7:11

said TBD. Basically, it meant everybody recognizes that this is an asset that

7:15

yet is to be is yet to be divided. So it really is something

7:19

that she could raise because obviously it's going to be more in her interest to

7:24

raise it. She can actually raise this at any time. What is a

7:27

QDRO. Yeah, we call it QUADRO, but it stands for a qualified

7:30

domestic relations order And it's actually a very valuable tool when somebody has an asset

7:38

like a pension, like an era that you don't want to reach into.

7:43

It allows there to be a transfer in the event of a divorce without it

7:46

being a taxable event. Okay, Now, John Doe says, this all

7:49

went down in two thousand and seven. Is this normal that it's still up

7:53

in the air like this. It's a little bit shocking that she hasn't brought

7:56

this up sooner, all right, But again they may be getting you know,

7:59

the six ten years ago, if they were forty at the time, all of a sudden, you know, fifty six now and now is probably

8:05

the time for her to raise it. And as far as John does concerned,

8:07

no news or no word is good word. There you go, John,

8:11

Do you have any further questions for Rick Jones? Yeah? So I

8:16

was just wondering, So if I do end up retiring and she never does

8:18

this, can she still go back or is it at that point be lost

8:24

out? Sure? Well, I don't see that she's ever lost her her

8:26

ability to go in and seek that. Now. What happens though, is

8:31

it really kind of depends on what sort of a pension that you've got. If it's a lump sum type of item, then you know, obviously she

8:37

can reach into that. If it's something where you're just paid on a month

8:41

to month basis, almost in lieu of salary, well every month that goes

8:45

by. With that in your pocket, she's really not going to be able to reach back and get that. All right, there you go, John

8:50

Doe. I think we're two for two with good, good answers. Right, let's keep this rolling, all right, Kenny isn't Kirkland and you are

8:58

on with Rick Jones of Goldberg Jones Pressure Kenny, I hope not. But

9:03

here's the deal. My kid actually got like really drunk and even stupid or

9:07

down to Vegas and got married to a girl he barely knows, and she

9:13

regrets it. He regrets it. But we don't know what to do now,

9:16

Like I don't know the difference between annulment, divorced, and really is

9:22

there anything else besides those two? Yeah, there is. I'm gonna slip

9:24

something right in the middle. There called a legal separation. I don't know

9:28

if that applies. In fact, I can tell you right now, given

9:31

the circumstance, that shouldn't apply. But an annulment is actually not a legal

9:37

phrase. An annulment is really more church based, where it's you know,

9:41

if your beliefs recognize that phrase, there's the ability to say, hey,

9:48

listen, this really never happened. There is one other possibility. But I'm

9:52

gonna ask you a couple of questions to see if it matters, which is, did they ever live together after they got married? No, they they

10:00

got married help Vegas, Vegas. How long ago was this? This was

10:09

two weeks ago, So we're trying to figure it all out. Yeah.

10:11

Yeah, Actually, you know what, I've actually got more good news to

10:15

give up to give out. There's the ability to go in and seek what's

10:18

called a declaration of invalidity. And again it's fairly rare because if they would

10:22

have come home and shocked up for two months, you know, we'd be

10:26

talking a different story. But yeah, you can see what's called a declaration

10:30

of invalidity, and in a case like this, both of them are going

10:33

to sign off on it, right, it's going to be done by agreement

10:35

through the court system, and it's going to basically say this didn't happen at

10:39

all, It was never valid to begin with, we didn't consecrate the marriage.

10:43

Without obviously getting into too much Vegas detail, but yeah, that's that's

10:48

actually great news, and it's a rare event, so more good news.

10:54

Congratulations Kenny and Kirkland, your son can uh I don't want to say get

10:58

rid of this, but if you've got a question for Rick Jones of Goldburg

11:03

Jones, he is here taking your calls right now eight hundred and two five

11:05

two one two five. Anything to do with family law, divorce, child custody. Rick Jones has taking your call at eight hundred two five two one

11:11

two five. Bob in Seattle is next, Hey, Bob, Bob,

11:18

Yeah, that's you. Hi. Hi. Uh So, I've been paying

11:24

child sport for past thirty years and my kids are all over thirty years old.

11:31

What is the cutoff? I'm I'm stumped only because there must be something

11:39

going on, you know, under the surface. Let me ask you a couple of questions. Were you able to stay current or was there kind of

11:46

a back support obligation that was created way back when? All right, Bob,

11:52

you've got a pretty bad phone connection. Typically from my understanding, Rick

11:56

Jones, when you have been with us for quite a long time, is

12:01

eighteen yeah, eighteen or finishes high school whichever happens latest. Yeah. So

12:07

in other words, somebody could be eighteen and a half, but they graduate

12:09

in June. That's when it ends, and then there's a potential of what's

12:13

called post secondary support, which is college era. But even then an extended

12:18

one is five years, and that's only if somebody is actively pursuing a trade

12:22

or a degree. So the only thing I can assume that's going on in

12:26

Bob's life is there must have been some sort of a back support obligation created

12:31

that a cruise. So let's say your child support obligation is one thousand dollars,

12:35

but all you can pay, or all that they got, so to

12:39

speak, was five hundred dollars a month. Well, then five hundred dollars

12:41

a month adds up as something that needs to ultimately be paid back. Now,

12:46

Bob, if you're listening, if that's not the case, call somebody. I mean call my office, but call somebody, because terminating child support

12:52

should be a no brainer. If you don't have a balance due, yeah

12:56

thirty, they're not kids anymore. Well, you can call it. Jones

13:00

at one eight hundred divorce or online Goldberg Jones dot com. But he isn't

13:03

here right now taking your calls at eight hundred two five two one two five.

13:07

We've got Rich in Snohomish on with Rick Jones. Hey Rich, Hey,

13:13

Rick, Well, so my situation is that my wife and I are

13:18

getting a divorce, but we were married in this country, but she has

13:22

already moved moved back to her native country of England. How do we do

13:28

that? Sure? Is she on board with getting a divorce? Yeah,

13:33

okay, then it should be no problem whatsoever. Washington still has what's called

13:37

jurisdiction, in other words, the power to rule on your marriage. In

13:41

fact, Washington has it far more so than England would, right because you

13:46

didn't go back there with her, so don't they don't have any jurisdiction over

13:50

you. So what you'll want to do is initiate the process, create the

13:54

documents of the final orders, if you can do this by agreement, and

13:56

then you send them off to her. We get her signature. They I'm

14:00

back and you're done in ninety days. Woo more good news. Okay,

14:05

all right, thank you, you're quite welcome. All right. Rick Jones

14:07

of Goldburg Jones doling out some pretty great advice this morning. Well, I

14:11

make it seem like it's not that case every week. Hey, it's Christmas,

14:15

all right, Kelly in Linwood. You are on with Rick Jones of

14:18

Goldburg Jones. Hello, Kelly, good morning, I was divorced back in

14:24

two thousand and ten, I think, and we had agreed that you keep

14:30

your retirement in pension. I keep my retirement intension. And since then he

14:37

has passed away in an accident, and I went and applied for all of

14:43

his tension and retirement got cashed out on all but his Union tension. And

14:48

I'm wondering if that's because they said because of the divorce degree, he doesn't

14:52

get it, or I don't get it. Can I petition for it to

14:56

go to his children? So this is going to get into the specifics of

15:01

what the Union pension really says. But I was actually surprised pleasantly when you

15:07

told me you were able to be successful at having some of his pension come

15:11

your way, some of his retirement benefits come your way, because according to

15:15

the decree it was, he keeps his right. So, like I said,

15:18

I was pleasantly surprised for you to hear that. What I'm guessing happened

15:22

here is that there was some level of survivor benefits that he's able to designate,

15:28

and that survivor benefit designation must have gone towards him. It's very possible

15:35

that the Union pension portion you're talking about didn't allow for any sort of survivor

15:37

benefit because ordinarily, even without any any wording specifically, it would have gone

15:43

to his children, just like you a will when you die, intestate or

15:46

without a will. So Kell, I'd reach out to the union and see

15:52

where it's going to go. Okay, thank you very much, I appreciate

15:56

it. You bet well. We've got an email that has been sitting here

16:00

for a while. I think we need to address. John and Kirkland sent

16:03

an email. My brother in law's having an issue with this divorce. His

16:07

personal income is too high to gain access to low income resources, but he

16:10

can't afford to hire a lawyer because my sister is spending all the money they

16:12

have in their joint account. He is desperately in need of advice. Are

16:17

there any affordable legal services that he can seek out? Boy? You know,

16:23

Unfortunately, like some other areas of law, especially in the criminal side,

16:27

where there's a risk of actually, you know, losing your liberty,

16:32

where there's such a thing as a public defender, there's really not such a thing in family law. It really is a civil lawsuit, a lawsuit like

16:40

any other lawsuit that might happen. He certainly can try making some phone calls.

16:45

Sometimes. Some of the law schools have internship programs where you have a

16:49

third year law student who's admitted to semi practice but under the supervision, so

16:56

he may want to make some phone calls. There. One of the things

16:59

I want to point out, and maybe this isn't for John, but it's

17:02

for other people listening though, is when I hear that he can't afford it

17:06

because his wife is spending all of their money, I'm going to ask a

17:11

question, which is can he afford not to right, because in other words,

17:15

this tire just keeps leaking and leaking and leaking, So he may have

17:18

to just buck up, you know, somehow bar the money, friends,

17:22

family, grandparents, if there's children involved, and we see that actually probably

17:29

in half of the family lack cases we handle, right, money is usually

17:33

not you know, dropping off the trees. When somebody's in the process of

17:37

gaining divorce and I think I've heard you say before that there is something he

17:41

can do to stop her from spending all of their money. Yeah, once

17:45

you file a case, there's basically an automatic temporary restraining order that's put in

17:48

place, and it applies to both of the parties, which is, do

17:52

not spend any money outside of the ordinary course of income. All right,

17:56

there you go. We've got time for one more caller. It is Rick

17:59

Jones from gold Burg Jones and we are putting on with d in Seattle.

18:03

Hello Dean, Hi Darre. Hey, what can I do for you?

18:08

So my question is I was divorced back in twenty fourteen, and I did

18:17

have a Quadroe order. I was unaware of the fact that it was his

18:22

single wife. There was some sketchy stuff in the divorce degree. But anyhow,

18:29

my ex husband passed away in twenty twenty and I tried to go back

18:36

to court to see if that could be revised and to be able to collect

18:40

that. We were married seventeen years and I couldn't get through to an attorney.

18:47

Everything was closed down during COVID. Yes, oh okay, well times

18:55

have changed. Yeah, I mean there's somebody answering our phone. What time

19:00

is it? Yeah, there's divorced d Yeah, we'll be answering the phone

19:03

in about five minutes. So quadra order was in effect. Now she wants

19:08

to make some changes. All she has to do is contact an attorney and

19:11

see if she can move forward with that. Well, it's probably not as

19:15

simple as that. I mean, eventually, a deal is a deal,

19:18

and especially when it was done so many years ago. So to try and

19:21

now seek to change something when the other party in this case obviously isn't able

19:25

to appear because of his passing. So I don't know if there's any avenue

19:30

of benefit, but it's worth making the call and having somebody take a look

19:33

at your documents. All right, d you heard him make the call.

19:36

We've got yea four minutes till Rick Jones's office. So the offices of Goldberg

19:41

Jones open at one eight hundred Divorce. You can always find Rick Jones by

19:44

going to Goldberg Jones dot com as well. That is all the time we

19:47

have for today, but Rick Jones will be here, oh the first Wednesday

19:51

of January. Crazy awesome to have you in here. Thanks as always,

19:55

Rick Jones, thank you, and go Huskies. All right, we have

19:59

got Danny Bonaducci's take next. You know, Danny's got a lot of very

20:03

strong opinions, and he's gonna give us his opinion on eggs. What does

20:07

he think? We will find out what his opinion is after Green Day and

20:10

what ant two point five k's okay? The classic rock station one O two

20:14

point five zy okay a classic rock station. Sure, I saw some red

20:18

flags. The Danny Bonaducci and Sarah Morning Shows weird. He's a nurse us

20:23

Danny Bonaducci's takes that. Here's my take on eggs. I just love eggs.

20:30

They're great. I take them scrambled fried, poach, based in baked,

20:33

hard boiled, soaw ball and now I'm gonna get real fancy. Were

20:36

they ready, Sue VD? Yeah? Side note, the line cooks at

20:40

Denny's are like artists. They always get my eggs just right. And I

20:45

love a good armlet. I like eggs bettered at Keish for Tana Devil's eggs,

20:48

But don't give me too much of those, if I know what I

20:51

mean. Think about it when someone's being called a good guy, and they

20:55

often say he's a good egg when life is good, it's sunny side up,

20:57

and that cracks me up. What I did there when I was a

21:00

kid. Easter egg hunts. We're the bomb. Eggs are the gift that

21:04

keeps on giving. You can eat them, you can hide them, and

21:07

don't forget. You can throw them at people. And that's my take on

21:10

eggs. Why don't two point five kz okay? The classic roxation where we are playing the game Peter Piper picked a chili peppers. This game gives you

21:17

a chance to win a pair of tickets to see the Red Hot Chili Peppers

21:19

May thirty first at the Gorge Amphitheater. To win the tickets before they even

21:23

go on sale, you have to pick the pepper from the clue. Ginger

21:27

in Tacoma is our contestant, and I'm hoping you are a pepper expert.

21:33

Ginger. I I'm not sure if I pull myself an expert, but I'm

21:37

a big chance. Okay, good you ready for your clue? Yes,

21:42

all right, here you go. Peter Piper picked a peck of this pepper.

21:47

It's what makes Jamaican jerk chicken super spicy. Often compared to its cousin,

21:52

the heaveniero pepper because of their similar look. This pepper is fruitier and

21:56

is a staple and Caribbean food. How hot is it? With a heat

22:00

rating of one hundred thousand to three hundred fifty thousand Schoolville units, that's pretty

22:06

damn hot. Can you name the pepper that Peter Piper picked. Oh,

22:11

I want to say jalapeno, but I don't know if that's right. That

22:15

is not right, Ginger. Oh, I'm so sorry. Kalapeno pepper was

22:19

not the answer. Robert is in Renton. Robert, you have the correct

22:23

answer for us. I believe I do. What is it? I believe

22:29

it the habanero. No, it's a cousin of the habanio. You weren't

22:33

paying attention, the cousin of the habenero pepper. Robert Tanner in Renton,

22:38

do you have the correct answer to what pepper this is? Oh gosh,

22:45

that the Scotch bonnet. Oh gosh, it is Tanner. Congratulations, buddy,

22:52

Hey, yeah, thanks, I appreciate it. Hey, you know

22:56

your pepper's Tanner. Congratulations, You've won yourself. Tick. It's to the

23:00

Red Hot Chili Peppers, May thirty first, at The Gorge courtesy of Live

23:03

Nation. Tickets go on sale Friday and that's through Live Nation or sorry,

23:08

through ticketmaster dot com. You can also listen tomorrow at seven ten because we

23:11

play another exciting round of Peter Piper Picked a peck of Chili Peppers, but

23:17

coming up right after music from Twisted Sister Jellybean has another joke for us,

23:21

and this one sounds like it might be a little scary. We will speak with the Funniest Kid in Seattle in three minutes on one of two point five

23:26

k's Okay, the classic oroxtation, and now jelly Bean's joke at the week.

23:32

Hey there, Uncle Danny, good morning, sweetheart. Are you ready

23:34

for my joke? Of course I'm ready. I look forward to it every

23:37

week. Okay, did you hear about the kidnapping at my school? No?

23:42

I sure didn't. Yeah, it was crazy. He slept through almost

23:45

the entire period kid napping. Oh, I did not get it at all.

23:53

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I go to school. But still very funny.